Open World PvP

[chaotix69]

I think adding this to the game would make it so much more interesting. Now I know that not everyone would be on board, which is why I think that it should either be restricted to specific servers, or maybe even just specific zones. That being said, to avoid trolls from ruining the experience for others, I think if they incorporated a level difference restriction between characters of different levels, it would add a new dynamic to the game that I think many would find enjoyable. It would at least raise the stales in the open world a bit and make it more lively. Idk, what do others think about tbis?

If this has been brought up before in prior threads, then I apologize

[Akonyl]

My main question in regards to this is: Where would this actually be happening? For the most part FF14 has extremely few reasons for players to actually be battling in the overworld unless they're done with the game. MSQ is almost entirely cutscenes, and if you're grinding FATEs you're probably grinding a secondary job, so people PvPing in the overworld would either not care, or be annoyed as they're griefed by higher level chars (or on the other side: higher levels who're trolling).

I could see this being implemented in a "grind zone" similar to eureka/bozja though, maybe with the multi-faction aspect of Dawntrail as part of it. But I doubt we'd see it as a general thing.

[Enkidoh]

Yoshi has poured cold water on the subject in the past and I don't think he'll ever change his mind on that - he doesn't want new players or low level players being deliberately harrased by end game players attacking sprouts for lulz (I've experienced that myself in other MMOs with open world PVP, being bullied and harrased by others wanting to PVP and turning them down, on supposedly 'non PVP' servers).

Also FFXIV's story and setting outright prevents it - there isn't 'Horde vs Alliance' here, players are all ostensibly on the same side here despite whatever nation they started in (and Endwalker only underlined that), so the Eorzean Alliance/Grand Company of Eorzea doesn't want adventurers beating each other up for bragging rights, so any duels between them are just friendly matches limited to the dueling circle at the Wolves' Den. Accordingly this will not change.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I don't see there being enough people wanting this to even justify a single server being created to support it. It would be dead, with people there only for housing and using world visit to do anything else.

[Hasrat]

This feels more like a "go play the games you want rather than trying to turn this game into something it isn't" situation.

Nothing about this game is designed for open PvP in any regard. Why even go to the trouble of suggesting something that simply doesn't fit?

You'd have about as much luck turning this into an NPC dating sim or an RTS.

"Let's add some shmup mechanics to Sim City." "Let's add cooking sim elements to Apex."

At some point you have to recognize that not everything is going to fit into every game, and trying to shove it in is going to do more to ruin than enhance anything.

[chaotix69]

Well like I said, it was just a thought. A bad one apparently.

[Warghoul570]

If they want to avoid players being harassed they could have it as an opt in only feature where you manually have to turn it on in order for you to be able to attack or be attacked that way the players that just want to play the game can’t be attacked by the pvpers

[Mcg55ss]

If they want to avoid players being harassed they could have it as an opt in only feature where you manually have to turn it on in order for you to be able to attack or be attacked that way the players that just want to play the game can’t be attacked by the pvpers

Again what would be the reason behind it. Yoshi likes everything to have a place in the story but we're always working together to come stop this end of the world disaster as o where would he put this, why those would be big questions. PvP as open world though is virtually dead, even WoW the world PVP is practically non-existent, there are a few servers in groups that try to keep it alive but vast majority of the population never even touch it anymore.

[Kosachi]

Again what would be the reason behind it. Yoshi likes everything to have a place in the story but we're always working together to come stop this end of the world disaster as o where would he put this, why those would be big questions. PvP as open world though is virtually dead, even WoW the world PVP is practically non-existent, there are a few servers in groups that try to keep it alive but vast majority of the population never even touch it anymore.

That's not really true. WoW hasn't had dedicated PvP servers in a very long time now (assuming you mean retail) but instead replaced it with the opt-in War Mode that puts you in a shard with other players who have it enabled as well as XP buffs and exclusive rewards. It's not as active as non-PvP but it is still plenty active and a lot of fun.

Now would this fit into 14? Not really, but we're going into a war of succession in DT so maaaaaaaybe? I doubt it.

[Ardeth]

It doesn't work. Even in retail Wow, they've abandoned true open world pvp for opt-in open world pvp that nobody joins. You join it to level and only if you're the underdog because the bonus is better. And you only level in your factions areas. And you only occasionally see that 12 year old who ganks you.

But that concept is dead, and it would be worse here. Nobody would ever opt in, and if they did, their opponents would be so limited that they would just turn it off.

Plus, you have different pvp skills and how they would interact with open world mobs. It's a nightmare, honestly.