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    I rarely had an issue because I made sure the outcome doesn’t matter whether they did Seraphic Veil first or obeys your Consolation immediately. Like you’ve said, we are more proactive than reactive so this ‘pet jank’ is also another thing that I always consider when planning out.

    DO NOT turn fairy into more of an embrace bot. ‘Totem healing’ is one of SCH’s appeal. If any, I think more actions should originate from fairies.

    Fantasy of seraph? IMHO they could remove it & I wouldn’t mind it. Seraph is one of those “where are you from??”-things. They could’ve just reintroduce Rouse-like button that turns Embrace into Seraphic Veil & the rouse button itself into Consolation with charges. No functionality is removed + you remove the need to wait for the Seraph making their exaggerated entrance.

    I do wish all of their casts overwrites their older shields.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Fantasy of seraph? IMHO they could remove it & I wouldn’t mind it. Seraph is one of those “where are you from??”-things. They could’ve just reintroduce Rouse-like button that turns Embrace into Seraphic Veil & the rouse button itself into Consolation with charges. No functionality is removed + you remove the need to wait for the Seraph making their exaggerated entrance.
    They do already have the animation where the fairy pops in instantly (I think Feo Ul uses it too), it would be nice if Summon Seraph just used that short animation instead of the fancy entrance animation that just delays her actions.

    Anyway, I agree, don't make the fairy an Embrace bot, totem healing is one of the only things remaining that's unique about SCH. Also yes, make new shields overwrite old shields so I don't have to ask people to click off their shields if I use it too early.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Fantasy of seraph? IMHO they could remove it & I wouldn’t mind it. Seraph is one of those “where are you from??”-things.
    Just make that pidgeon pet glamour for the people that like it.

    As for the request, yeah, I see it coming with 7.0 if the current system stay the same : on summon seraph do a free consolation - that would be the level 100 capstone job trait ! There wasn't much they could do with the job anyway
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    This. I would rather reintroduce Rouse than Seraph. In my opinion this was just their way to say SCH can have a demi summon much like SMN.
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    I don’t foresee Seraph being removed in the future ever. The commitment of Summon Seraph was very high, involving a new model with multiple new animations to accompany it, so removing it at this point would make Seraph a big net loss, which isn’t an appealing option. I suppose it’s theoretically possible to convert her to another glamour for your normal faerie to salvage those efforts, but even more than that, Seraph is too ‘exciting’ of a tool to remove without disappointing the common player, because the common player does not see a clunky mess of an action, they see an epic healing cooldown.

    I think the best possible solution at this point would be to resolve whatever issue prevents a player from having more than one summoned pet at once, and simply have Seraph be summoned without dismissing Eos. It’s a problem that Summoner really wants to see resolved as well, as that would mean they could give Carbuncle actual tools to use without conflicting with the constant Demi-summoning summoner will likely always be doing for the rest of its lifespan.
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    Last edited by ty_taurus; 12-27-2023 at 09:13 AM.