Time for an anti-cheat

[HikariKurosawa]

You guys can pretend and make all this stuff up all you want but all it does is illustrate how little you care about fairness in gaming and how you don't take this game seriously. It's fine, but it makes the game and its community look bad.

Have fun while you can, technological development is inevitable and AI will make it easy to deal with cheaters soon enough.

Cheating is "abnormal".

Use of mods may be against the Terms of Service but it only becomes cheating when it gives a player an unfair advantage in completing content compared to those who don't use mods.

Most of the mod use in the game is not related to giving the player an unfair advantage in completing content. It's akin to taking a test where you're told to only use a black pen to mark your answers and you choose to use a blue one instead because you like blue more. Did you break the rule? Yes. Did you gain an unfair advantage in completing the test by doing so? No.

The amount of mod use that truly is cheating is small. If it were rampant, clear rates of high end content when still current would be much higher than they are and come much sooner after release.

So is there cheating? Yes, as you say you can't expect a game to be free of cheaters. Is it normalized? No. Most players will earn their clears and wins through honest skill and effort.

Look at the database on fflogs. "But parsing isn't cheating!!" Yes, it is. It enables you to see who is underperforming, who is overperforming, what it takes to clear content. It is a live metric of your performance and how optimal your rotation is, it takes out so much work that it is crazy. Nobody has ever or would ever add up the numbers in battle log because it would be more efficient and effective to just play the game at that point. It isn't supposed to be so easy to see who is performing. All it does is create a system where the game is taken way too seriously in the wrong way and raises the bar of expectations to unrealistic levels. Instead of letting people naturally improve at the game and be seen as human players, they are seen as numbers on a parse and considered for their performance in a parse.

Then there are people who use auto rotations, simplified rotations, cooldown meters, dot meters, auto marking, cactbot, etc. It's very common and it is all cheating. All of this provides a huge competitive advantage in the raid scene.

Pretend all you want, but this game is dead to anyone who cares about fair play.

[Aword3213]

You guys can pretend and make all this stuff up all you want but all it does is illustrate how little you care about fairness in gaming and how you don't take this game seriously. It's fine, but it makes the game and its community look bad.

Have fun while you can, technological development is inevitable and AI will make it easy to deal with cheaters soon enough.

Cheaters would never know what hit them. It's not like those third party developers would ever think to utilize the power of AI to develop better cheats and bots.

Pretend all you want, but this game is dead to anyone who cares about fair play.

Online gaming is a cruel cruel world. Why can't everyone just be polite, lawful, honest, virtuous and fill the world with rainbows and laughter? Is this too much to ask?

[HikariKurosawa]

ITT: Cheaters malding over someone calling them out on being trash

[Saraide]

It isn't supposed to be so easy to see who is performing.

Me when I'm mad no one wants to hard carry me through savage.

[HikariKurosawa]

Me when I'm mad no one wants to hard carry me through savage.

Can't relate and not the point that was made. I was talking about how you are required to have experience to get into groups, and have to have a resume. It creates an old boy's club environment and lowers the overall participation in end game. This makes the level of play lower than it should be because there are far less people playing that level of content than there would be if not for these systems.

Keep pretending you're good though, even with cheats you're bad.

[Doozer]

Keep pretending you're good though, even with cheats you're bad.

Man, you're still here? I wonder what you'll do in your free time once your sub runs out (allegedly).

By the way, the Super Ultra Mega Cheaty logs that people save are often public. And people can post logs of your performance without you knowing. I recommend checking yours before throwing stones.

[HikariKurosawa]

Man, you're still here? I wonder what you'll do in your free time once your sub runs out (allegedly).

By the way, the Super Ultra Mega Cheaty logs that people save are often public. And people can post logs of your performance without you knowing. I recommend checking yours before throwing stones.

I'll play better games like I already am?

Check my parse I don't care rofl. You admitted to using addons that simplify your rotations in this very thread everything you say is invalid.

[Doozer]

I'll play better games like I already am?

Check my parse I don't care rofl. You admitted to using addons that simplify your rotations in this very thread everything you say is invalid.

My rotations? When did I say that? Please quote the post where I said "I use addons that simplify my rotation" 'cause now you're just running out of material.

[HikariKurosawa]

My rotations? When did I say that? Please quote the post where I said "I use addons that simplify my rotation" 'cause now you're just running out of material.

Yeah, it's super weird that some people like myself might use third-party mods for accessibility reasons, that's super weird and suspicious.

Quit with the vague witch-hunting, people don't oppose anti-cheat methods because they cheat. Get over your stupid binary view of the world.

I'll turn it around on you though; why do you hate disabled people so much? That's kind of sus. You're actually pretty evil for being so aggressively against people who need to mod the game to be able to see things better or have slightly easier inputs. What an awful human being you are.

Mr "my vision isn't 20:20 I have a disability"