Time for an anti-cheat

[Stormpeaks]

LAMO XD HAHAHAHA

Like 1000 erp posts this week? I don't think it's a very popular tag. Probably follow botted too. Get those attention seeking addons for twitter lol.

[DiaDeem]

[Larirawiel]

Anticheat on the PC plattform is literaly impossible to implement. Many games with anticheat mechanisms sitll have many cheaters and botters. So anticheat does more harm than good.


Cheers

[caffe_macchiato]

Anticheat on the PC plattform is literaly impossible to implement. Many games with anticheat mechanisms sitll have many cheaters and botters. So anticheat does more harm than good.

Final Fantasy XIV is one of the few online games which does not have server-side cheat detection. It is also by far the most modder-friendly and cheat-friendly MMO ever made. It is one of the only online games which allows you to inject your own, third-party API for controlling all game events including in a competitive environment. It is also one of the few games which allows you to alter server packets without being detected.

But then again, that's why many people play FFXIV, isn't it? I wonder what Yoshida thinks when his life work has turned into who can install the sickest mod and break the gameplay the most?

[Axxion]

I hate this because this is facts

[Larirawiel]

Final Fantasy XIV is one of the few online games which does not have server-side cheat detection.

We do not really know what they have on the server side.

But then again, that's why many people play FFXIV, isn't it? I wonder what Yoshida thinks when his life work has turned into who can install the sickest mod and break the gameplay the most?

I would say, the option to mod the client is one of the biggest selling points of FF14. There is a huge community behind it. It would be very easy to prevent it.


Cheers

[Sindele]

Final Fantasy XIV is one of the few online games which does not have server-side cheat detection. It is also by far the most modder-friendly and cheat-friendly MMO ever made. It is one of the only online games which allows you to inject your own, third-party API for controlling all game events including in a competitive environment. It is also one of the few games which allows you to alter server packets without being detected.

But then again, that's why many people play FFXIV, isn't it? I wonder what Yoshida thinks when his life work has turned into who can install the sickest mod and break the gameplay the most?

Four assertions and only one of them is correct, and that's only really on a technicality. We're swinging for the fences today, as usual.

[caffe_macchiato]

Four assertions and only one of them is correct, and that's only really on a technicality. We're swinging for the fences today, as usual.

Good bait, good bait. But instead of responding, I'm in fact going to support your position.

Speaking of which, when's the next world first race? You ARE looking forward to it, right?

[HikariKurosawa]

Good bait, good bait. But instead of responding, I'm in fact going to support your position.

Speaking of which, when's the next world first race? You ARE looking forward to it, right?

You mean the event where a group of cheaters posts a screenshot when they clear the content?

What I don't get is why square doesn't just change the ToS so people are allowed to use mods if they're okay with it. Then nobody could complain. The environment as is is just toxic.

This whole game is founded on toxic positivity it seems, bunch of fake losers RPing at something they're not.

Anticheat on the PC plattform is literaly impossible to implement. Many games with anticheat mechanisms sitll have many cheaters and botters. So anticheat does more harm than good.


Cheers

I would say, the option to mod the client is one of the biggest selling points of FF14. There is a huge community behind it. It would be very easy to prevent it.


Cheers

Same poster. These people have zero logic. Elon musk is right we really do need a neurolink. Feels like we're living in idiocracy. Third party mod your brain out of being inept.

[Larirawiel]

Same poster. These people have zero logic. Elon musk is right we really do need a neurolink. Feels like we're living in idiocracy. Third party mod your brain out of being inept.

There are some technical reasons why i wrote it and my postings do not contradict. It is only a matter of effort, the botters/cheaters have to do to overcome the anticheat mechanisms. You can technically prevent a working code injection. This will propably stop all textures and model altering mods, damage meters etc. Code injection is also very easy to do for the players. Just start the character altering mod/parser with Administrator rights or use a special launcher and you are done. And that is the reason why so many players do that. Because it is easy. If you stop a working code injection, then many players and developers of those tools will simply give up.

But when it comes to stop Gil selling botters, they will not give up so quickly because real money is involved. For botting, teleport hacks etc. code injection is not needed. And if you put the whole Windows installation into a virtual machine then you can do what you want with the game from the VM host. But setting up such a virtual machine, which allows you to modify a game, running in the guest OS is way harder than starting a special launcher with elevated rights.

So no, you cannot prevent cheats and bots but you can raise the effort, which would be needed to run them successfully.


Cheers