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  1. #61
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    Is this the part where we also tell them how plugins and bots have been a thing for years in FF11 as well and also given a blind eye by the GMs and devs?
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  2. #62
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    I think people are forgetting one important thing.

    This is Final Fantasy XIV. This game is known around the world as "that modded MMO" because of all the junk that people install. The most popular plugins have millions of downloads. There are almost as many people using Mare as the total number on Steam. Nearly every screenshot on Twitter is modded. People brazenly use them on Twitch and YouTube. There is a good chance that people's first impressions of the game are through plugins and modded screenshots. People play this game because it's moddable. That's the legacy that Final Fantasy XIV leaves for the MMO genre.

    And it's funny that people bring up "other games", because even they have limits. Final Fantasy XIV has no server-side cheat detection. The game cannot even scan its own files against an internal checksum. As a result, there are no limits to what players can inject into the game. No other MMO allows for this. Final Fantasy XIV is vastly unique in its own genre. Funny for a game that wasn't supposed to have add-ons.

    Square Enix isn't exactly afraid of anti-cheats, they're afraid of being involved because, ultimately, they do not care. FFXIV was supposed to be a ten-year project with FF16 following it up. We are on what they call "maintenance mode", and if that isn't clear now, it will be in 7.0 when you get 24 hours of cutscenes and no endgame.
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    Last edited by caffe_macchiato; 12-11-2023 at 12:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    FFXIV was supposed to be a ten-year project with FF16 following it up. We are on what they call "maintenance mode",
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  4. #64
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    Now this reminds me of Aion before they took a massive stance way back on it. I remember login out and couple days later login to find out only 2 out of 300+ was let in the guild. All the rest was banned. I can see it happening here soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    Here, I can get that for ya.

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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    Square Enix isn't exactly afraid of anti-cheats, they're afraid of being involved because, ultimately, they do not care. FFXIV was supposed to be a ten-year project with FF16 following it up. We are on what they call "maintenance mode", and if that isn't clear now, it will be in 7.0 when you get 24 hours of cutscenes and no endgame.
    This is true, my dad works at Square Enix and is personal friends with Yoshi-P, once over dinner he let this slip and my dad told me but made me promise not to tell, but now that it's out in the open, I can confirm this.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Now this reminds me of Aion before they took a massive stance way back on it. I remember login out and couple days later login to find out only 2 out of 300+ was let in the guild. All the rest was banned. I can see it happening here soon.
    How's that copium treating you? Looks like you're on a lot of it
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  8. 12-11-2023 09:28 PM
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    MB, gave in, shouldn't feed the troll lmao

  9. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    I think people are forgetting one important thing.

    This is Final Fantasy XIV. This game is known around the world as "that modded MMO" because of all the junk that people install. The most popular plugins have millions of downloads. There are almost as many people using Mare as the total number on Steam. Nearly every screenshot on Twitter is modded. People brazenly use them on Twitch and YouTube. There is a good chance that people's first impressions of the game are through plugins and modded screenshots. People play this game because it's moddable. That's the legacy that Final Fantasy XIV leaves for the MMO genre.

    And it's funny that people bring up "other games", because even they have limits. Final Fantasy XIV has no server-side cheat detection. The game cannot even scan its own files against an internal checksum. As a result, there are no limits to what players can inject into the game. No other MMO allows for this. Final Fantasy XIV is vastly unique in its own genre. Funny for a game that wasn't supposed to have add-ons.

    Square Enix isn't exactly afraid of anti-cheats, they're afraid of being involved because, ultimately, they do not care. FFXIV was supposed to be a ten-year project with FF16 following it up. We are on what they call "maintenance mode", and if that isn't clear now, it will be in 7.0 when you get 24 hours of cutscenes and no endgame.
    Nobody knows FFXIV for those reasons. Not sure what discord communities you're in but it's an echo chamber.
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  10. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Nobody knows FFXIV for those reasons. Not sure what discord communities you're in but it's an echo chamber.
    You sure would know about echo chambers LMAO

    Also look at the ffxiv and gpose hashtag on Twitter and stop being in denial
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  11. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    You sure would know about echo chambers LMAO

    Also look at the ffxiv and gpose hashtag on Twitter and stop being in denial

    LAMO XD HAHAHAHA

    Like 1000 erp posts this week? I don't think it's a very popular tag. Probably follow botted too. Get those attention seeking addons for twitter lol.
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