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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    I've never felt that way about anti-cheat in any game I've played. I can see why many people would think that way but for me it's just a technological advancement that makes gaming more fair and better.
    Sure.. in the meantime, we can disable all "cheats" in the housing department forcing single layer decorations in every house. Certainly won't piss off pretty much everyone. And WoW has some pretty heavy addons just like this game. I know; I've used them.

    The only way to stop addons is to make this game console only, but since this game is going to pretty much completely phase out PS4 with the new graphics update next year, I wouldn't count on that. The only console users will be PS5, the new X-box, and whatever dedicated PS4 users that are left that are just stubborn enough to try and hang on.

    PC users are here to stay and that means damage meters are too. BTW, DPS meters are even more powerful in WoW than they are here. Those calculate DPS, HOTS, DOTS, damage taken, and even more.
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    Last edited by Nabril; 12-10-2023 at 02:03 PM.

  2. #52
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    Vivian Rysto
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  3. #53
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    Mana Ethielday
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    I find that players using mods should be like the concept of being pantless you wouldn't go outside and let everyone know you were doing it, you wouldn't stream yourself doing it either.

    And you certainly wouldn't raid with it either.

    But what you do in the privacy of your own home (instance) shouldn't impact anyone else.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManaEthielday View Post
    I find that players using mods should be like the concept of being pantless you wouldn't go outside and let everyone know you were doing it, you wouldn't stream yourself doing it either.

    And you certainly wouldn't raid with it either.

    But what you do in the privacy of your own home (instance) shouldn't impact anyone else.
    There's no need for all of this, just ban people who break the terms of service. It's too bad we live in a dishonest society where nobody cares about integrity or fair play. Square enix is really hurting for success. When the game is only profitable due to cheaters, it's not a good look.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    There's no need for all of this, just ban people who break the terms of service. It's too bad we live in a dishonest society where nobody cares about integrity or fair play. Square enix is really hurting for success. When the game is only profitable due to cheaters, it's not a good look.
    If you have Issues with the game for not having a anti cheat then "I hate to say it but it sounds like you don't appreciate the great game you get to play." someone once told me that, I think you should listen to that person. (spoiler alert you said that to me).
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  6. #56
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    Between raiders and limsa afkers using visual mods, they would lose a ton of subscribers for no real gain. Would be a terrible idea.
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  7. #57
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    Mana Ethielday
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    There's no need for all of this, just ban people who break the terms of service. It's too bad we live in a dishonest society where nobody cares about integrity or fair play. Square enix is really hurting for success. When the game is only profitable due to cheaters, it's not a good look.
    I mean, Square isn't really hurting for success. There are many MANY players who don't play without any add-ons or mods, anyone who plays on console for example.

    My mentality is as long as you going pantsless isn't impacting anyone else, go right ahead, do whatever you want in your own house. But the second that it impacts another player's ability to play (like a toxic PF or people racing for world's first), that's not ok.

    Content should be beatable without mods, people who complain it's too easy are either really good at the game or have really good add-ons (lol).
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    "I have a type, white-haired anime men who will eventually betray me."

  8. #58
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    Guys, just stop. I pretty much gave up talking to this alleged person when they seemed unable to understand the difference between a zoomhack and a Viera hat. They're either thriving off the attention or they just like malding, and I don't really care which.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    Guys, just stop. I pretty much gave up talking to this alleged person when they seemed unable to understand the difference between a zoomhack and a Viera hat. They're either thriving off the attention or they just like malding, and I don't really care which.
    They're a troll or cannot understand people have different perspective on things, doesn't take a genius to know it's actually a way more nuanced topic then >put anti cheat, game fix. But if you don't share the exact same opinion as them then you've obviously got ill intentions!

    I'd lean more towards the troll side, I made two comments because I've been watching this thread and another that I choose not to post (also a random dps thread where they kept bringing it up, where i was posting). But you're likely right, they aren't really worth the time and effort, they're likely enjoying the attention.
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    Last edited by Rithy255; 12-11-2023 at 07:32 AM.

  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    They're a troll or cannot understand people have different perspective on things, doesn't take a genius to know it's actually a way more nuanced topic then >put anti cheat, game fix. But if you don't share the exact same opinion as them then you've obviously got ill intentions!

    I'd lean more towards the troll side, I made two comments because I've been watching this thread and another that I choose not to post (also a random dps thread where they kept bringing it up, where i was posting). But you're likely right, they aren't really worth the time and effort, they're likely enjoying the attention.

    Yeah, troll. No functional human being is this incapable of understanding an argument. They've yet to reply honestly to anything, and I just saw them strawman you.
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