Time for an anti-cheat

[Axxion]

at this point this thread is just sad. Op projecting over a game that doesn't really have any competitive value

[Elkanah]

If you really think you need to know the meta to participate in savage content, I feel bad for you.

So what youre saying is- your dps was THAT bad and you were carried. Got it.

[Stormpeaks]

I'm so glad OP finally called themselves out as to why they are so angry, they don't want to improve at the game, it's better to rage at parses than to improve right ? Lmao

Also the fact they say "ill play wow where it's fair" is pretty comedic considering you need epic parses and m+ score for any serious content, but I assume that upsets them too since they seem to get rejected for content in both games.

Get better at the game and stop blaming parses.

How would you know if you weren't using add-ons?

You probably should think twice about what you're claiming when the source of proof comes from what you're complaining about.

This too, called themselves out again lmao

[Elkanah]

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Comedies sometimes write itself lol

[Sindele]

Ah, but WoW is the proof that anticheat works! Just don't google 'rotation bot'.

[caffe_macchiato]

Ah, but WoW is the proof that anticheat works! Just don't google 'rotation bot'.

You mean you have to pay for that in WoW? This just proves the point that if you make cheating more difficult, it becomes more rare and expensive for people to do. It becomes less normalized, which means the game becomes more fair. Why can't we have that?

In FFXIV, plugins like that are completely free, open-source and integrated in the launcher. WoW has nothing compared to the capabilities of FFXIV's API.

[Sindele]

In FFXIV, plugins like that are completely free, open-source and integrated in the launcher. WoW has nothing compared to the capabilities of FFXIV's API.

For those of you at home, this is what one calls 'a lie'. Like, blatant, bold-faced, Fox News-grade, disprovable-in-ten-seconds-by-anyone-who-looks lying. You should be better than that. You aren't, clearly, but you should be.

Odd, I googled it and some of the main results are about massive banwaves... guess the anti cheat does work!

Yeah, right between the six different ones that have been in operation for multiple years, and a bit under the article about the one that was only killed after almost a decade by a lawsuit rather than any actual engineering work.

Anyone who knows what they're looking for could kick off a mighty banwave in this game in a couple days with access to the server logs, a little scripting, and a spreadsheet. As it always has been, it is an enforcement problem, not an engineering problem.

Of course, this is assuming one has an interest in actually solving the extant botting problems, rather than grinding multiple unrelated axes under the catch-all guise of 'cheating'.

[caffe_macchiato]

For those of you at home, this is what one calls 'a lie'. Like, blatant, bold-faced, Fox News-grade, disprovable-in-ten-seconds-by-anyone-who-looks lying. You should be better than that. You aren't, clearly, but you should be.

That's fine, and you're welcome to have that opinion. I'm not allowed to post any proof because it breaks TOS.

But you will never have a World First race be publicly acknowledged by the developers again. The game will look and feel less and less like FFXIV when all of your friends start asking you where your plugins are. You will realize that less and less people play the game because it's been trivialized to obsolescence and people would rather ERP instead. You can stick around in FFXIV, but you will be disappointed. Most likely, you will move away from FFXIV and find a different game. You will say this is a good thing and proves that FFXIV is perfectly fine, but you will struggle to find your same friends in those new games. Bad decisions with FFXIV will hurt people the same way that WoW's fall did. Many people are still upset about what happened to their previous game, so why should we let that happen here? It didn't have to be this way.

[Doozer]

But you will never have a World First race be publicly acknowledged by the developers again. The game will look and feel less and less like FFXIV when all of your friends start asking you where your plugins are. You will realize that less and less people play the game because it's been trivialized to obsolescence and people would rather ERP instead. You can stick around in FFXIV, but you will be disappointed. Most likely, you will move away from FFXIV and find a different game. You will say this is a good thing and proves that FFXIV is perfectly fine, but you will struggle to find your same friends in those new games. Bad decisions with FFXIV will hurt people the same way that WoW's fall did. Many people are still upset about what happened to their previous game, so why should we let that happen here? It didn't have to be this way.

Can you tell me if I'm going to win the lottery as well?

[Boblawblah]

That's fine, and you're welcome to have that opinion. I'm not allowed to post any proof because it breaks TOS.

But you will never have a World First race be publicly acknowledged by the developers again. The game will look and feel less and less like FFXIV when all of your friends start asking you where your plugins are. You will realize that less and less people play the game because it's been trivialized to obsolescence and people would rather ERP instead. You can stick around in FFXIV, but you will be disappointed. Most likely, you will move away from FFXIV and find a different game. You will say this is a good thing and proves that FFXIV is perfectly fine, but you will struggle to find your same friends in those new games. Bad decisions with FFXIV will hurt people the same way that WoW's fall did. Many people are still upset about what happened to their previous game, so why should we let that happen here? It didn't have to be this way.

Have you tried to convince your friends to play something else? It seems obviously they're the only reason you're still here, why not play other games with them?