Ya got me. I'm a huge frontline player. Wouldn't know a thing about CC balance.I can tell from your/OP comments you play a lot of frontline, in crystalconflict some of the issues you mentioned would be less severe. And that is what they try to balance for, for arena mode, not for frontline. And there is the source of the problem. You can't make super interesting cc arena gameplay, while leaving it the same in frontline, it will be a mess. Nerfing skills based on frontline experience, will make arena CC mode more boring too.
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I'm sorry but the way you portrayed your post by labeling PLD as underpowered and DRK as grossly overpowered as well as complaining about a lack of diminishing returns on CC (which if reimplemented would work per CC type, which is mainly relevant to Frontlines and Rivalwings) - it would definitely give not few people the impression that this post was made with largescale PvP in mind.
Frankly, PLD is in a healthy if not binary spot in CC (since so much of their value is in Cover), DRK has plenty of counterplay in CC and excessive 1-type CC is rare and takes 3+ jobs with that to be noticable.
The fact you reached at least Diamond is definitely commendable, but it does not help that your original post invoked Frontline bias, even if unintentional.
I read those things way more from frontline players tbh. I think in Crystalconflict CC effects aren't that bad. I would like if purify would be an action you can also use on teammates to clear their cc and debuff and dots, like it was previously.
- CC/Stuns having no Diminishing Returns during a timeframe, and forcing you to use stun breaks for a limited time is poor balancing.
- Classes having mechanics or lbs that are clearly overpowered in a semi-skilled player's hands that give too much return for little to no risk continue to be an issue.
- Certain balancing among classes such as PLD (Underpowered) & DRK (Grossly Overpowered), some healers, some dps, continue to be unaddressed. (Still think Warrior is the best balanced tank in PvP currently).
- Sprint being togglable and used in combat to allow people to just run away from any class that doesn't have abusable stuns/burst/or a series of low cool down charges. (Hint - no mobility and CC creep would be a poor "solution". Reworking sprint in combat is the correct solution)
2nd point also sounded like it, as a samurai or dragoon lb can kill many instantly in frontline.
PLD is boring but not too weak I guess in 5vs5, while DRK pull in effect and aoe spam make it excellent for aoe situation in frontline.
Only in frontline you can effectively kite away, while in Crystalconflict you are kinda trapped at some point. I don't think it is fun having to press sprint every 2nd second because you need to kite though, maybe sprint should cost a fraction of MP if activated to offset its spam-use.

Seeing how you think drk is op and pld is up and how op sam/nin are from the other thread, yeah you actually don't know a thing about cc balance, those are 100% FL player whinging topics.
So I'll tell you how this is going to go, just so you (and the rest of these delusional pseude "elitists") have a heads up and I get to tell you "I told you so".
- I'm right, and you're not.
- DRK, Sam, and Nin are disgustingly OP. Reaper is sleeper. Refer to point one I made.
- The reason you say these things is likely because you abuse these mechanics to reach higher tiers, and these mechanics also happen to be extra exploitable with a bunch of cheating software currently available to players in CC.
- You and I are probably going to be worst enemies.
- You're going to get progressively angrier/slanderous the more I post proof and rub your face in just how wrong you are.
Please look forward to it.
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1.) At worst this is bait. At best that is a boosted opinion, not a proven fact.So I'll tell you how this is going to go, just so you (and the rest of these delusional pseude "elitists" have a heads up and I get to tell you "I told you so".
- I'm right, and you're not.
- DRK, Sam, and Nin are disgustingly OP. Reaper is sleeper. Refer to point one I made.
- The reason you say these things is likely because you abuse these mechanics to reach higher tiers, and these mechanics also happen to be extra exploitable with a bunch of cheating software currently available to players in CC.
- You and I are probably going to be worst enemies.
- You're going to get progressively angrier/slanderous the more I post proof and rub your face in just how wrong you are.
Please look forward to it.
2.) Elaborate what specifically makes these jobs stand out compared other jobs that make them so disgustingly OP. Also explain why they aren't picked nearly 100% of time at most levels for being so OP.
3a.) People are allowed to use flavour of the month jobs as they like. This does not prove that players using these jobs defend their mechanics to preserve the state of brokenness to abuse for climbing.
3b.) This is baseless indirect defamation at worst, ranting at best. Players are innocent until proven guilty so there is no point referring to abusability of game mechanics with cheating tools when the assumption is normal play.
4.) That's just cringe bro.
5.) (That's just cringe bro.)² - prove things first, ideally with relevant data that has a source to back up on, before you think so highly of yourself.
Ty for the free content.1.) At worst this is bait. At best that is a boosted opinion, not a proven fact.
2.) Elaborate what specifically makes these jobs stand out compared other jobs that make them so disgustingly OP. Also explain why they aren't picked nearly 100% of time at most levels for being so OP.
3a.) People are allowed to use flavour of the month jobs as they like. This does not prove that players using these jobs defend their mechanics to preserve the state of brokenness to abuse for climbing.
3b.) This is baseless indirect defamation at worst, ranting at best. Players are innocent until proven guilty so there is no point referring to abusability of game mechanics with cheating tools when the assumption is normal play.
4.) That's just cringe bro.
5.) (That's just cringe bro.)² - prove things first, ideally with relevant data that has a source to back up on, before you think so highly of yourself.
Please look forward to it.
i promise you absolutely none of what you just posted is trueSo I'll tell you how this is going to go, just so you (and the rest of these delusional pseude "elitists") have a heads up and I get to tell you "I told you so".
- I'm right, and you're not.
- DRK, Sam, and Nin are disgustingly OP. Reaper is sleeper. Refer to point one I made.
- The reason you say these things is likely because you abuse these mechanics to reach higher tiers, and these mechanics also happen to be extra exploitable with a bunch of cheating software currently available to players in CC.
- You and I are probably going to be worst enemies.
- You're going to get progressively angrier/slanderous the more I post proof and rub your face in just how wrong you are.
Please look forward to it.
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