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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Turn all SGE’s 25y/30y down to 15y-20y, then rework Icarus by giving them 3-4 stacks and making them potentially ground targetable plus 3rd charge of Phlegma as a band aid lmfao.

    … I’m half joking…
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    I always assumed people say SCH has better shields because they can make it crit on demand thanks to recitation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I always assumed people say SCH has better shields because they can make it crit on demand thanks to recitation
    A deployed adlo is the strongest shield in the game (its base shield potency with no buffs is about 810 potency of shield) but it is also very resource intensive which is its tradeoff

    Adlo is a GCD you have to stand still to cast, recitation is a tool with other healing potential (600 potency critdom or 1200 potency critcog while removing their ED cost) and any buffs to its potency have other uses (protraction is also a 10% mitigation and can be used to buff other heals including the tanks own heals, dissipation is risky and usually done specifically for damage and fey illumination is also a raidwide mitigation)

    Zoe+e prog only costs the GCD and Zoe who’s only other real use is changing Pnuema from 600 potency to 900 potency
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    Rawker Stone
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    ... dissipation is risky and usually done specifically for damage....
    Or if you need the extra Lustrates for those kinds of roulette runs where the tank is very stingy of their mits. XD
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    Blade Beoulve
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    A deployed adlo is the strongest shield in the game (its base shield potency with no buffs is about 810 potency of shield) but it is also very resource intensive which is its tradeoff

    Adlo is a GCD you have to stand still to cast, recitation is a tool with other healing potential (600 potency critdom or 1200 potency critcog while removing their ED cost) and any buffs to its potency have other uses (protraction is also a 10% mitigation and can be used to buff other heals including the tanks own heals, dissipation is risky and usually done specifically for damage and fey illumination is also a raidwide mitigation)

    Zoe+e prog only costs the GCD and Zoe who’s only other real use is changing Pnuema from 600 potency to 900 potency
    I find it wierd why anyone (not saying you) would even waste zoe on pneuma instead of using it for e diag/prog. 600 potency is far beyond plenty and using pnemua normally with a ixochole/kerachole instant full party heal. Once more even I have things I thing could be change on sage and pneuma am sorry its ok but too niche imo like ast synastry. Also Tarochole too becomes worthless once kera gets regen trait since they do not even stack.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bole View Post
    Holos is a really strong mitigation, and SCH doesn't have an equivalent source of shields. I assumed that it was buffed so much to give SGE something that can do what deployed crit shields can.
    It was, it way because SGE was getting excluded as the shield healer is DSR
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    I don't know how my suggestion got spun into me hating SGE, but if someone actually plays SGE a lot, they'd be able to see that the idea actually doesn't hurt SGE at all.

    You get instant casts when you're close to the boss, which is where you're meant to be when weaving heals anyway since all your abilities originate from your position. Being unable to weave when far from the boss means you have to use Toxikon to weave if you're unable to get close, which gives value to Toxikon existing. And having the nice bonus of instant casts when close to the boss means Icarus has value when getting you back to the boss quickly after going out for a spread mechanic.

    The only cons are that you get a shorter slidecast window and you can't weave when you're casting your filler far from the boss. Other than that, SGE's freedom isn't hampered very much at all since Eukrasian Diagnosis/Prognosis are still instant, Eukrasian Dosis is still instant, Phlegma and Toxikon are still instant.
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    Malia Tri'el
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    A SGE change I want is to either rework or replace Soteria with with something that grants you like X number of stacks of a 1.5 sec recast instant damage spell (that cleaves to save on hotbar space) so you can machinegun out damage while machingunning Kardia procs. And give it like a 40 or 60 second cooldown.
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    Last edited by mallleable; 03-06-2024 at 06:49 AM.

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