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  1. #1
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    sindriiisgaming's Avatar
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    Sugar And'spice
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    Achievements collecting has no real rewards

    This game doesnt seam to care about achievement hunters despite many different achievements. There are no threshold rewards (like for example all arr, all stb, all shb achievements) and so this game does not incentivise the collection of achievements past the 1 title u want and or mount.

    Some players really want to go for every achievement yet some of them ridiculous gaps like say. 10 times, the next achievement is 100. Then 1000 or 5000. These gaps are insane and just feel like padding it out to make u play the game more. Imo these gaps should be made much more realistic going forward.

    But overall. I want to see reform to achievement collection so that hunting them has some tangible value and something you can show off that isn't just. Another title, another mount.
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    Peter Redhill
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    I don't care about achievements if they don't have rewards attached to them. After that, it's busy work and arbitrary numbers.

    Unless every achievement gives you a reward, nothing is going to change. And if there's always a reward, there isn't one.

    For me, when it comes to the 100 to 1000 to 5000, I just look at the person who made it that ridiculous with contempt. Because they don't care about your time. People shout long-term goals. But THE only reward being behind 5000 of anything makes 5000 the only number that matters to me. Letting me know I'm at 1000 is just a waste of code. So I can get named achievement number 2.

    Maybe because I'm from the generation that was around for the birth of video game achievements and achievement points, but I don't care. I don't care if I have a million points or 12. I just want the item attached to the meta achievement. Everything else is worthless to me.
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    "You haven't proven that it is safe, you've (only) proved that you can't figure out how it's dangerous."

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    Gosetsu Daito
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    Odin
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    Viper Lv 100
    I would just ramp up the last tier to do X 1,000,000 times to get to the heart of the reason for these kinds of achievements: Engagement Therapy
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    While there are some interesting rewards from some achievements... I really agree with the OP.

    I'd say that 80% of them are really meaningless. The achievement hoarding is not even useful for 'bragging rights' if someone likes that because who even checks other people's profiles to see those?

    Plus, most of them are also just... grinds. I'd love to see more of something (with proper gratification) like "Do X Alliance Raid without taking any unavoidable damage". Currently out of my memory the only one that slightly resembles that is the Blue Mage achievement to get one of their weapon skins.
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Na, I'm glad the rewards are just mounts/a silly hat (that I can't wear..)/ or a title that no one cares about. At least then it's super easy to just ignore them once I get what I want. 10k fates? I don't ever have to think about that achievement thankfully, because there's no reward!
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    Phoebe Iris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    While there are some interesting rewards from some achievements... I really agree with the OP.

    I'd say that 80% of them are really meaningless. The achievement hoarding is not even useful for 'bragging rights' if someone likes that because who even checks other people's profiles to see those?

    Plus, most of them are also just... grinds. I'd love to see more of something (with proper gratification) like "Do X Alliance Raid without taking any unavoidable damage". Currently out of my memory the only one that slightly resembles that is the Blue Mage achievement to get one of their weapon skins.
    Only other achievement hunters do using third party websites and unsurprisingly most people cheat for high end achievements.
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    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    Only other achievement hunters do using third party websites and unsurprisingly most people cheat for high end achievements.
    Most people cheat for high end achievements? Sounds like nonsense. The people that do cheat for achievements are just losers regardless. The best part is they can't escape their conscience. They know deep down they are losers.
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Diabolos
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    Weird how completionists have changed from enjoying the pride of accomplishment and instead want incentives and flashy rewards to show off to people who literally do not care whatsoever. Learn to value your own time instead of assuming it's a waste to do something if you don't get candy at the end.
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Uh, it has rewards, it just doesn't have good milestones, or good enough participatory milestone rewards.

    Looking at the Pteranodon, for example, I would've had more participatory stuff at, say, 200/250K. A minion, mount or adventurer plate would suffice in instances such as these. In fact, I probably would've reworked Gathering and Crafting in the air to be 50K on each class, rather than just a single class.

    Like, I have been complemented, and had banter with friends over getting the Pteranodon - Just as I have done so with a friend that has the Tiger mount, because it is a pretty insane grind, especially for Divine Provider, even after the adjustments from ShB > EW. But there's simply nothing in between to actually encourage a lot of people to start the journey.

    Achievement tokens themselves are in a weird spot, but that's just because I personally feel that the rewards from the achievements themselves should be funneled into this to some degree.

    The fishing achievements are actually probably the best designed, in terms of rewards, and milestones.

    You should probably consider that most people hunting achievements are just completionists regardless of the rewards, and some just compete with each others, some like the simple dopamine hit
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Achievements are busywork to keep people subbed.
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