Still Waiting for that Sam/Nin nerf

[AnotherPerson]

Oh that's strange it says your most played class in CC was Nin followed by Mch.

Gotta do whatever it takes to save your ez pz climb to crystal class eh?

I wouldn't be surprised if someone caught you win trading / using the auto targeting third party cheat software.


Nerds can't even handle there's no way to stop ninja LB especially when coordinated with someone who has a burst via shield (Herp derp, I wonder why Mch and Nin combos rank number 1 in both competitive tier and casual)

And worst part is, that's not even the easiest combo to wombo with, you can literally wipe teams with Whm and Drgs in the 70-80 IQ range just by having them LB on top of a group of people or line aoe and watching the ninja roll their misshapen quasimodo forebrow along their keyboard with buttons 1-9 being their LB.

No this game is horrifically balanced, and bottom barreled players are getting to the top abusing the same tired stuff.

Can I ask where you pull up these stats? Lmfaoooo, I can't ahahahahah. Now I actually wished I recorded my entire climb on BRD/AST/WHM to Crystal. The seething jealousy to players better than you is insane.

[Fourbestintoner]

Both those jobs are midtrash compared to drk, drg, ast.
There's also no reason to play them over monk.

[Jettinson]

There's also no reason to play them over monk.

Monk feels thousand better than Samurai will ever be

[Twooty]

Some advice for the OP of this thread and anyone else that feels the same way:

"Sam - LB that instant 100/0 people with little to no counter play."

There are many ways to deal with this, and I will try to cover them giving general examples specific to deal with a SAM's LB.

If you see Chiten on the Samurai's list of buffs (cyan-coloured buff) then change target and don't hit the SAM or even think about using AoE skills in their proximity. If you hit chiten, it'll apply the Kuzushi debuff for 5s. This is what allows SAMs to one-shot you when they LB.

If you are confident then you can attempt to bait the SAM LB with shields. A good example of this is a NIN using Huton (16k shield) with or without bunshin (+8k shield) to get the kuzushi debuff and bait the SAM LB. One reason you might want to do this is to safely diffuse an enemy SAM LB because of how big a threat it can be to AoE-heavy classes that might be on your team in team fights.

There are many other ways to pull this off, and it will require situational awareness and split-second decision making for players that want to bait the LB. You can even bait it as certain ranged jobs if you are confident in your own abilities, such as MCH's Bishop Autoturret (6k shield) and simply LoS'ing the SAM around a corner, far from the enemy team in hopes they LB you and don't have time to break your shield; you can simply Scattergun to knock them back if they dash to you and recuperate. However, there is a caveat to baiting SAM LBs, and that is they have 5s to LB you; which also means they (or their team) have 5s to break your shield to one-shot you if you can't get a second shield up in time. Even as a NIN you can have your 24k shield broken by double single-target Namikiri on you (12k damage x2) so there's always a danger to this. Lastly, just invuln the LB. As a DRK or PLD you can simply activate your LB.

Nin - LB that chain kills people at 50% health or less.

This is very easy to deal with as well. Simply focus down or kill the NIN in the team fight to get them out of the team fight as early as possible. Dead NIN means no NIN LB in the fight. They have no pressure if they are killed or forced out of a fight. If a NIN does LB a teammate remember that they get animation-locked themselves. You can kill them as a team during that animation lock since they cannot recup/guard; a CC that prevents them from recuping or going into guard (e.g. Stun/Silence) means that NIN has to purify (and recup depending on how much damage they take) before they can continue the LB chain. Awareness pays dividends so pay attention to enemy LBs.

Stay above 50% health. If you are low on mana and don't have enough to stay above 50% health, simply leave the fight, elixir, and return. If a NIN LB does go off around you then Guard. They have 5s to continue their chain and Guard lasts 5s.

That's my general tips for you or anyone else struggling to play against SAM and NIN. Hope it helps.

[george357]

well don't hold your breath waiting i don't think the company likes being told what to do.