Still Waiting for that Sam/Nin nerf

[Oni_Akuma]

I'll put it out there. Sam and Nin don't need any nerfs. On the contrary, Sam needs to be buffed slightly. In Crystal level gameplay, they are too easy to kill. Ninja can be debated for buffs slightly. What I notice is most of you complainers do not have high actions per minute and think they're broken cause you can't press buttons fast enough. These buttons are significantly less buttons than previous pvp modes.

What I can tell from your complaining is that you are lacking basic knowledge* of counterplay and pvp etc. Like I said in other threads. I fight people to the death 1 v 3-5 in Crystal rank and tournament CCRC level scrims to test your abilities. It's also about mental awareness and creating opportunities in battle.

Every season I get to Crystal [when subbed] simply by Running you all down. [Straight up killing and not playing for objectives] Honestly not many of you show any promise of potential. Simply just showing me you play the mode many times to achieve the rank you aim to get.

[joansbones]

i hope the balance team never takes a pvp forum posts suggestions into consideration

[LezardQueen]

This post further proves that 99% of all PvPers doesn’t know how to play most of the time

[Jettinson]

i hope the balance team never takes a pvp forum posts suggestions into consideration

I highly doubt they take any of PvP posts in considerations
(Square, instead of a single attack, give Samurai a horse during its LB, thank you)

[Fourbestintoner]

Both those jobs are midtrash compared to drk, drg, ast.
There's also no reason to play them over monk.

[Jettinson]

There's also no reason to play them over monk.

Monk feels thousand better than Samurai will ever be

[Twooty]

Some advice for the OP of this thread and anyone else that feels the same way:

"Sam - LB that instant 100/0 people with little to no counter play."

There are many ways to deal with this, and I will try to cover them giving general examples specific to deal with a SAM's LB.

If you see Chiten on the Samurai's list of buffs (cyan-coloured buff) then change target and don't hit the SAM or even think about using AoE skills in their proximity. If you hit chiten, it'll apply the Kuzushi debuff for 5s. This is what allows SAMs to one-shot you when they LB.

If you are confident then you can attempt to bait the SAM LB with shields. A good example of this is a NIN using Huton (16k shield) with or without bunshin (+8k shield) to get the kuzushi debuff and bait the SAM LB. One reason you might want to do this is to safely diffuse an enemy SAM LB because of how big a threat it can be to AoE-heavy classes that might be on your team in team fights.

There are many other ways to pull this off, and it will require situational awareness and split-second decision making for players that want to bait the LB. You can even bait it as certain ranged jobs if you are confident in your own abilities, such as MCH's Bishop Autoturret (6k shield) and simply LoS'ing the SAM around a corner, far from the enemy team in hopes they LB you and don't have time to break your shield; you can simply Scattergun to knock them back if they dash to you and recuperate. However, there is a caveat to baiting SAM LBs, and that is they have 5s to LB you; which also means they (or their team) have 5s to break your shield to one-shot you if you can't get a second shield up in time. Even as a NIN you can have your 24k shield broken by double single-target Namikiri on you (12k damage x2) so there's always a danger to this. Lastly, just invuln the LB. As a DRK or PLD you can simply activate your LB.

Nin - LB that chain kills people at 50% health or less.

This is very easy to deal with as well. Simply focus down or kill the NIN in the team fight to get them out of the team fight as early as possible. Dead NIN means no NIN LB in the fight. They have no pressure if they are killed or forced out of a fight. If a NIN does LB a teammate remember that they get animation-locked themselves. You can kill them as a team during that animation lock since they cannot recup/guard; a CC that prevents them from recuping or going into guard (e.g. Stun/Silence) means that NIN has to purify (and recup depending on how much damage they take) before they can continue the LB chain. Awareness pays dividends so pay attention to enemy LBs.

Stay above 50% health. If you are low on mana and don't have enough to stay above 50% health, simply leave the fight, elixir, and return. If a NIN LB does go off around you then Guard. They have 5s to continue their chain and Guard lasts 5s.

That's my general tips for you or anyone else struggling to play against SAM and NIN. Hope it helps.

[george357]

well don't hold your breath waiting i don't think the company likes being told what to do.