And the slow death of the RPG based battlesystem

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Mechanic based difficulty is always going to create more unique and engaging encounters compared to rotation based difficulty. I love the direction this game has been heading in personally, and can't really relate to those who want more complex rotations back.

Spoiler alert: people that think that rotations used to be a lot more complex or whatever fancy tale they like to tell themselves to cope with how people have gotten better at the game are living with pink tinted glasses. It's never been about more complex rotations, and in fact, the OP I made specifically took great lengths in talking about the game battle system, and not job rotations. I'll agree that I mentioned them in one item, but the point was again, a paradigm on cast times and tactical choices, not on specific job rotational mechanics.

Also, this is not a binary problem as you make it sound, and again I tried to put forth that it's not about having 100-0 mechanics to rpg systems or 0-100, but a good blend of both. The point of the OP is raising the issue that it's slowly but surely gliding towards the 0 to 100 ratio those days, and it's worrying.

Maybe it's because I refuse to use third party tools and actually have to figure out the mechanics on my own. It would make a lot of sense for people who are cheating at the game to find it boring. When rotations are the difficult component, mechanics have to be simplified and homogenized. Then boss fights have little to no identity or are extremely simplistic.

Maybe it's because I refuse to use third party tools and actually have to figure out the mechanics on my own. It would make a lot of sense for people who are cheating at the game to find it boring.

When rotations are the difficult component, mechanics have to be simplified and homogenized. Then boss fights have little to no identity or are extremely simplistic.

It's much better this way, the solution is to just uninstall all the third party tools(cheats) that most people complaining about the direction of rotations have installed.

Who said that the fights or mechanics are boring? They do a great job in introducing new things. However things have become extremely formulaic and as somebody has pointed out, even if mechanically the coils raids are less stunningly intricate than some of what we have today, the bosses on their own, I'm sorry but they feel a lot more unique and varied throughout the whole series, for the very reason that they're not trying to focus 100% of the time on the same unique thing: having super nice boss mechanics that ultimately always boil down to pair/spread/donut/tethers/etc.

Are you accusing somebody of cheating? This isn't about nasa mods and finding mechanics boring...

I think honestly that you completely missed the point.

Like dance partner, ninja trick attack, samurai dps, black mage dps, bard songs, dragoon eye, rdm and smn revive, smn consistent dps and flashy summons, the list goes on. I don't see a problem at all with what jobs in this game have to bring to the table individually.

I think tons of players in this game just use third party addons that take away so much from the experience that they have become unable to actually assess how the game feels anymore. I'm not saying you do, but too many people abuse cheats in this game.

Individually being the keyword here.

But I do honestly feel that you're trying to push another agenda with another subject with your third party obsession... I'm sorry but that's completely beside the point. You're throwing wild accusations then saying you're not accusing me or the people here of doing it... Then, what is the point behind this?