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  1. 04-30-2024 01:15 PM #1
    GoatOfWar
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Reyno View Post
    I understand your opinion. Mine remains unchanged.
    Why do you think everyone and their grandmother progs with red mage and summoner despite BLM doing more dps?
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  2. 04-30-2024 02:27 PM #2
    J-Reyno
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    Why do you think everyone and their grandmother progs with red mage and summoner despite BLM doing more dps?
    Lol I know exactly why and I don't have a problem with that, so it doesn't change how I feel. I'm not gonna argue about it, it's just a personal wish of mine that we already know isn't gonna happen anyway.
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  3. 04-30-2024 02:59 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Reyno View Post
    Lol I know exactly why and I don't have a problem with that, so it doesn't change how I feel. I'm not gonna argue about it, it's just a personal wish of mine that we already know isn't gonna happen anyway.
    Then you should also understand why it would be a recipe for disaster to have a tank - a role that can survive mechanics and survive on their own, be able to res a healer or caster back up.
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  4. 05-01-2024 12:27 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    They absolutely cannot give tanks a rezz because it completely breaks the game to give tanks rezzes
    Would it? At most you might get some more goodbye-world tier strats that involves the PLD using hallowed then ressing a healer, but that honestly sounds like a pain in the ass to do. And even then, lately fights have been designed with failiure attacks in them that bypass invuln so I REALLy can't see that happening.
    Given how okay the devs are with Holmgang warping fights around WAR, I can't really see this being much of an issue.
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  5. 05-01-2024 03:03 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Would it? At most you might get some more goodbye-world tier strats that involves the PLD using hallowed then ressing a healer, but that honestly sounds like a pain in the ass to do. And even then, lately fights have been designed with failiure attacks in them that bypass invuln so I REALLy can't see that happening.
    Given how okay the devs are with Holmgang warping fights around WAR, I can't really see this being much of an issue.
    Just because the current state isn't great doesn't mean we should be okay with it getting worse.

    Tanks do not need combat raise.
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  6. 05-01-2024 03:50 AM #6
    Oizen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Just because the current state isn't great doesn't mean we should be okay with it getting worse.

    Tanks do not need combat raise.
    Healer is already incredibly unpopular and people want tanks to be more unique across the board, I'm not against it.
    I'd honestly be fine if everyone could res at least once per fight, it let us design jobs without having to do stupid things like res taxes, and it probably would help how unbalanced the damage for casters has become.

    I really like the fact that Criterion does this.
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    Plus, if PLDs get a battle res, a not-so-jealous tank will cry about and they'll get smooth-brain res too, but with 4,294,967,296 additional effects
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  8. 04-30-2024 08:17 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Reyno View Post
    DRK:
    -Rework tbh
    -Sustain to match the other tanks
    I used to think this way, but tbh they should do the opposite, they should bring all the tanks down to DRK levels of sustain.
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  9. 05-01-2024 04:12 AM #9
    J-Reyno
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vallerie View Post
    I used to think this way, but tbh they should do the opposite, they should bring all the tanks down to DRK levels of sustain.
    Sure hope not, personally. The sustain upgrades were pretty popular with tanks and it didn't upset balance within the role. DRK showed us that damage is still king of all kings.
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  10. 05-01-2024 06:23 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Reyno View Post
    Sure hope not, personally. The sustain upgrades were pretty popular with tanks and it didn't upset balance within the role. DRK showed us that damage is still king of all kings.
    That’s the problem it did upset the internal tank role balance (IE the WAR is best at everything problem) but worse it decimated the healer balance because tanks are too concerned with internal balance to care that the upgrades they keep demanding are literally shoving healers further and further into irrelevancy

    You don’t get to delete another third of the trinity for your power fantasy

    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Would it? At most you might get some more goodbye-world tier strats that involves the PLD using hallowed then ressing a healer, but that honestly sounds like a pain in the ass to do. And even then, lately fights have been designed with failiure attacks in them that bypass invuln so I REALLy can't see that happening.
    Given how okay the devs are with Holmgang warping fights around WAR, I can't really see this being much of an issue.
    The ability to see further ahead in a fight cannot be overestimated

    All you would have to do is hold hallowed, when it’s obvious you are going to fail the mechanic have the PLD use hallowed then rezz the healer then plod along seeing the timeline till the next body check. It would totally decimate the design of progging savage and ultimate

    The only way to stop it would be to make literally every body check go through invulns which has its own problems

    This is also ignoring how much it would facilitate “goodbye world” style healer LB3 cheeses to just ignore incredibly difficult mechanics

    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Healer is already incredibly unpopular
    Also how is it a solution to an unpopular role that suffers from other roles superseding it to give the role that constantly supersedes it more of its kit
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