Thread: 7.0 Tank Wishlist

Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Are we really going to sit here and legit argue that DRK is frail, has tank survivability drifted so far that DRK is legit considered frail

If anything DRK is at the top end of how survivable a tank should realistically be, GNB, WAR and PLD are comically overpowered

To add to this, the skill ceiling for DRK is quite high, alongside GNB. In the hands of a good player who mained DRK since HW, you can barely notice a diff, in terms of survivability. I am sometimes in awe how my Carbuncle was able to sustain them and I know that I was slapping the ground the entire time. But on the flip side, there exist DRKs who only use TBN, and not much else.. and quite frankly, I am greatly stressed to the point of taking a quick 5-minute break to release any stored anger/frustration I have.

So in the argument that the other 3 needs nerfing, the only thing that needs it is the red-green-blue tank... its self-healing is through the roof, the only time it dies is when the player is showing that dreaded connection issue icon beside its name.

Originally Posted by rawker

To add to this, the skill ceiling for DRK is quite high, alongside GNB. In the hands of a good player who mained DRK since HW, you can barely notice a diff, in terms of survivability. I am sometimes in awe how my Carbuncle was able to sustain them and I know that I was slapping the ground the entire time. But on the flip side, there exist DRKs who only use TBN, and not much else.. and quite frankly, I am greatly stressed to the point of taking a quick 5-minute break to release any stored anger/frustration I have.

So in the argument that the other 3 needs nerfing, the only thing that needs it is the red-green-blue tank... its self-healing is through the roof, the only time it dies is when the player is showing that dreaded connection issue icon beside its name.

GNB is mostly fine it just really doesn’t need such a powerful heal on heart of corundum, like SCH has to recite its excog to be stronger than a tank at its own healing skill, that’s problematic

PLD needs to lose knights benediction on its shield gauge actions or the HP restoration on its magical combo, a PLD in its magical combo correctly rotating holy Shelton is harder to kill than a WAR

WAR nuff said

Originally Posted by Supersnow845

PLD needs to lose knights benediction on its shield gauge actions or the HP restoration on its magical combo, a PLD in its magical combo correctly rotating holy Shelton is harder to kill than a WAR

The gap between self healing for PLD, despite good, is worse compared to WAR and in a battle of attrition, will rubber band compared to WAR. It even has to stop doing dps to cast Clemency on himself should the healer struggles and dps not melting trash quicker.

Originally Posted by Flay_wind

I'd like if SE just copy pasted PVP Salted Earth into PVE. I.e. draws in enemies in range, deals damage to enemies standing in the circle, DRK gets a regen while standing in it. Shorten recast time to a more reasonable 60 seconds.

Give Salted Earth a draw in

Give Primal Rend a small knock back

Let Shield Bash be an AOE stun

GNB, idk just give it more damage I guess

Once again can we please not get “utility” on the tanks that basically amounts to more healing

Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Once again can we please not get “utility” on the tanks that basically amounts to more healing

Again, I don't really think this is ever going to go the way you want it to, I've never seen the devs go back on decisions they've made here. So all its really amounting to is exuding Dark Knight from party utility the other tanks have for no real reason.

I'd love for them to admit its not a good idea and nerf the other tanks, but its flat out not going to happen. So I'm going to discuss ways they could bring Dark Knight up to the standard it needs to be at set by the other tanks rather than play the hypothetical game of "nerf the rest of the game"

Originally Posted by Oizen

Again, I don't really think this is ever going to go the way you want it to, I've never seen the devs go back on decisions they've made here. So all its really amounting to is exuding Dark Knight from party utility the other tanks have for no real reason.

I'd love for them to admit its not a good idea and nerf the other tanks, but its flat out not going to happen. So I'm going to discuss ways they could bring Dark Knight up to the standard it needs to be at set by the other tanks rather than play the hypothetical game of "nerf the rest of the game"

But you’ve suggested something that fills a niche that doesn’t exist, DRK’s party utility is totally fine, DRK and GNB have the advantage of it being mitigation so it affects things like bleeds, but the disadvantage it only works on medical damage, PLD and WAR have the advantage shields affect everything and don’t have diminishing returns; but the disadvantage they don’t provide mitigation for things like bleeds

So you are just straight up suggesting a buff to DRK’s healing for a niche that doesn’t need to be filled, party mitigation is already balanced (regen on SIO non withstanding but the mitigation on HOL/DM is worth more against a bleed anyway