Thread: 7.0 Tank Wishlist

Are you really still this upset over dark knight no longer having overwhelmingly high damage to the point that drk/drk was a more than viable composition?

Originally Posted by fulminating

Are you really still this upset over dark knight no longer having overwhelmingly high damage to the point that drk/drk was a more than viable composition?

I want War players to stop cannibalising any sort of identity Drk develops until War is just a direct upgrade over it and to then put the blame on the job.

Originally Posted by GoatOfWar

I want War players to stop cannibalising any sort of identity Drk develops until War is just a direct upgrade over it and to then put the blame on the job.

Out of interest, what is it you consider dark knight's identity?

Originally Posted by fulminating

Out of interest, what is it you consider dark knight's identity?

A knight with affinity for magicks, not too dissimilar from Pld but no healing. I think a cool identity for Drk would be to have the most and best shields of all tanks, but currently it doesn't. TBN is it's only shield and it got powercrept. Drk's defensive toolkit is just worse than what the others provide. It has all of it's healing tied to it's clunky invuln, PLD and War have strictly superior party mits, you are now expected to deal the least damage of all tanks, we are the only tank that risks a damage loss for using our mit (usually happens due to external mits). The list just goes on and on. Damage was all it had, but we weren't allowed that either and the War playerbase once again could not stand the idea of Drk doing anything better. So now Drk is just the worst at everything and nobody cares because we had 2 good tiers. I have no reason to doubt that we'll see this very same song and dance play out in DT; Drk does cool thing, streamer gets mad, now all tanks do cool thing, making it no longer interesting and Drk becomes worse warrior.

I have less issues with the hoops DRK has to jump through and more with the fact that it isn't rewarded for it.
There are legitimate strengths that Dark Knight has, even things that no other tank has, and I'll even say I find the job inherently more interesting than FellCleave & FellCleave Accessories. The problem I have is that every strength it has comes with a draw back.
Like this:

TBN has a shorter CD than the other Tank Short Mits
But its also Weaker
And its the only one that can be a Damage loss, and no the game isn't really curated to see if TBN is even applicable in all content.
The existance of oblation doesn't really even the playing field.
Oh and you also just have no sustain, so you can very easily find yourself in scenarios where Dark Knight basically has no unique tools for tanking in certain content, and cant even restore the damage you'll take.

Dark Mind has the strongest effect of 20% Mitigation, AND 60s CD
Only against magic so theres a good chunk of content its not even applicable on


Now the existance of all 3 of Dark Mind, Oblation and TBN make dark pretty tanky in magic only fights, and only there. But not so much so that I think its a notable upside. Dark Knight will be pressing 3-4 mits to get by things, to other tank's 2 mits.
This isn't a bad thing, but the upsides of this rarely actually come into play, and on a tank thats already pretty high APM it can be chaotic.
I also think since the over-buff to Shake it off, its really questionable why Heart of Light or Dark Missionary are ALSO magic locked, I don't think it would break the game if this skill was more applicable to all content and not just specific mechanics of specific fights.


Basically all of this comes together to make a tank that is really frail and awkward in content the developers deliberately ignore when balancing the game. And with the addition of Criterion we can't even shrug that off anymore.

DRK needs an edge (ba-dum tish) over the other tanks that they would not want.

Are we really going to sit here and legit argue that DRK is frail, has tank survivability drifted so far that DRK is legit considered frail

If anything DRK is at the top end of how survivable a tank should realistically be, GNB, WAR and PLD are comically overpowered

Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Are we really going to sit here and legit argue that DRK is frail, has tank survivability drifted so far that DRK is legit considered frail

If anything DRK is at the top end of how survivable a tank should realistically be, GNB, WAR and PLD are comically overpowered

Do you really think they're going to nerf 3 other tanks for this?