Thread: 7.0 Tank Wishlist

General: Change 30% Mitigations to be a bit different from one another (just make them more interesting), Give tanks a small DPS reward for good defensive use (like shield swipe), More importance on utility and team Support, Add raid wides and short cd defensives eariler on certain classes.

PLD: Reduce some Bloat, merge some, Add another combo to PLD (goring blade combo) it can do anything really as long as you use it, Reduce atonements, Make Clemency OGCD and apart of MP management (Remove magic attack healing but give clemency eariler), Make shield bash a Cone Stun, Cover should make you knockback Immune too, also removing all cleansable effects on you and target, granting knights benediction, extended range and off gauge. Make DV give out a regen if broken, Make passage similar to temperance tbh, it's whole gimmick is to just weave it out of existence, Rework Blocking, Rework how you gain gauge, Make your gap closer deal no damage but you can charge to allies, for 92 Upgrades to Fast/riot/royal, then later a upgrade for holy spirits animation. Also add Magic attacks eariler (below 50)

War: Remove Shake for a Intimidation that reduces all enemies damage by 15%, Healing should no longer heal you for each enemy, Add back upheavel on the gauge gap closer too, Honestly I'd prefer it if warrior had to choose to heal or to Mitigate (like SHB) but warrior had base HP higher by 15%-20%. Maybe give Vengeance a bloodbath effect as to still give them that aoe sustain but just not to the effectiveness of current. In general I want warrior to feel like a warrior, not like a axe paladin healer.

Drk: Rework This job from the ground up offensive wise add more magic looking effects, also make its animations look better (a lot of its older animations did), Maybe allow Dark Arts to work with defensive abilities, Examples would be: DA Dark Mind, turns ability physical, DA: Oblation turns this into a targetable life steal effect, DA: Shadow Wall, Turns it into a short mitigation but a lot weaker ect. I think Also your party wide should become a Barrier ability as that actually fits dark knight. Job should remain somewhat busy but, not only in bursts I want it to be also busy in downtime, not to the same level obviously but just more consistent weaving throughout your encounter instead of spamming buttons in burst.

Gunbreaker: Make heart of light also Mitigate for physical, I honestly don't know what else should be changed about gunbreaker.

Dark Knight: click here for more details -> https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...43#post6383443

Gunbreaker: More Continuation skills, especially for main combos because Gunbreaker only feels bad when it doesn't have Continuation at lower levels. Double the potency of Continuation skills. Charges for a lot of Gunbreakers defensive abilities. A second charge for Bloodfest, Bow Shock, Sonic Break, and No Mercy and maybe reduced recast timers for said abilities. Sonic Break a cone AoE DoT. Bow Shock has 30 second duration. Heart of Light affects physical damage and gives a raidwide cure potency of 400 that also gives Brutal Shell buff for the amount healed and Aurora buff to all party members. Aurora an instant cast 900 cure potency for some clutch plays and on a 30 cooldown. Gunbreaker coat that doesn't clip with long hair.

Paladin: Sword Oath stacks are part of Paladin's job gauge. Shield Bash an oGCD that becomes Shield Swipe upon execution. Spirits Within becomes Expiacion upon execution. Confiteor combo available outside of Requiescat, preferably after using a skill that uses up the Divine Might buff since Confiteor combo already has a base potency and a Requiescat potency. Sword Oath combo instead of Atonement spam. Combat Raise. Holy Spirit/Circle and Confiteor combo cure potency being AoE for up to 30 yalms for raid wide clutch plays. Raid wide damage up buff for party members. Raid wide regen for party members. More Gladiator themed abilities for base Gladiator.

Warrior: I do not really play Warrior so I have no idea what to do with it... but if I had wish for SOMETHING for Warrior, it would wanting to use Primal Rend outside of Inner Release, and maybe allow Inner Chaos/Chaotic Cyclone to be used outside of Infuriate, and have a way to get the 10% damage up outside of combat. Upheaval and Orogeny actually use the axe in the animations. Upheaval becomes Orogeny upon execution. Make Warrior less reliant on raid buffs to max out damage dealt. Delete Bloodbath effects on Warrior exclusives abilities and replace them with regen effects. More regen effects and instant heals on cooldowns. Raid wide damage up buff for party members. More Marauder themed abilities for base Marauder.

General Tank changes: 300 potency increase for all actions and combo bonuses because Tank Mastery Trait is very misleading(and that's the nice way of putting it). 25% haste effect that also affects ability recast timers. Low Blow an AoE stun that does 100 Potency, 400 Potency if it interrupts an enemy cast, 800 potency if it fully resist/immune to stun that is also a guaranteed Direct Critical Hit(it's called "Low Blow" after all). Interject same as Low Blow, minus the 800 potency effect. Second Wind and Bloodbath as tank role actions. Delete or rework Shirk. Tenacity affecting Direct Hit Rate. Enmity management to return for tanks only. 20 second duration on all invulns. Tank Mastery Trait reworked/removed or more clear about what it actually does because of the damage up effect on Tank Mastery being bugged by causing 1200 potency attacks hitting for a lot less on tanks than a Melee DPS using a 1200 potency attack.

WAR :

• Reduced defence compensated by more hitpoints compared to other tanks.
• Maybe a passive trait that increase damages done. The lower the life, the harder the hits.
• Class mitigations now increase life instead of reducing incoming damages. As Thrill of Battle before level 78.

DRK :

• Passive increase of magic defence. That way, it will always resist magic without counting on a oGCD.
• Maybe a passive trait that increase damages done. The lower the life, the harder the hits. (giving this trait to the WAR or the DRK would be cool I think)
• Why not recieving a (party?) heal when an ennemy dies near the DRK. (also recieving a damage boost when a friend dies near the DRK but I'm dreaming)

PLD :

• A ward similar to the sage's Kardia that transfert all, or part of, self-healing to the warded friend.
• Why not Clemency as an level 50 oGCD ?

GNB :
I don't really play GNB. I always think that adding a bayonet to a machinist doesn't make it a tank. But why not make it the shield tank ?

• Class mitigations now give a shield instead of reducing incoming damages.

Paladin:

• My main desired improvement for Paladin is that it simply has too much button bloat, so consolidating some buttons would really help me fit everything comfortably within my crosshotbars. I'm already using a ton of macros and it's still bursting at the seams. Consolidating the 1-2-3 and 1-2 combo into a single button each would be enough to grant some much-needed space, provided that new moves don't eat that space up. So in that vein, please also get rid of a move for every new move that gets added!
• In a similar vein, Requiescat and Fight or Flight should be fused into a single move, since you're always going to want to cast them at the same time. This would open up some button space and reduce some needlessly clunky weaving.
• Also, yeah, y'all gotta nerf our healing.

Dark Knight:

• I feel like Dark Knight has been left behind mechanically. Paladin has this combo that builds into magical attacks and then periodically a bunch of magic swords, while also having a few abilities focused on defending party members. DRK kind of feels like Paladin if they took that stuff away and then replaced it with nothing. The Blackest Night is certainly some of the funnest mitigation in the game, but it's late to the party at level 70, and nothing else DRK gets feels like it has the impact or oomph of Paladin's spells or Warrior's Fell Cleaves. I don't mind that Dark Knight is mechanically simple, as I think it's good that some classes are simpler/easier than others, but I do wish that it felt like its kit brought more to the table, either by feeling cool to use or by providing utility that gave the class a bit more identity compared to the other tanks.

Originally Posted by Jidka

PLD :

• Why not Clemency as an level 50 oGCD ?

This is something I'd like to point out as I think OGCD clemency could actually work really well and be something that makes PLD sort of stand out if done the right way.

I think if you reworked some MP values on, magic attacks, Clemency, getting mp back, you could turn clemency into a High costing MP skill that you can get around 2 uses out per minute (unless you want to expend extra clemencies which would ruin your burst damage).

I personally don't want to see clemency become some generic 60s CD, but to become something that has interesting value with how you can use it freely but over using it will cost you your burst. This also would keep its solo (or cases where you are keeping the team alive without a healer), but also repurpose it as something apart of your general kit. (I'm also going to mention here that we could generally get rid of REQ healing for this as PLD would likely have way too much healing if this was changed).