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    Question Regarding Quick Exploration for Retainers

    Just a lil curious about the retainer ventures, both Hunting & the Field Explorations have the option to select the lvl of the venture.

    But that leaves out Quick Explorations; which has no lvl requirement and will yield you any drop from the game's loot pool ARR to END.

    So my question is, how difficult would it be 1.0 code being 1.0 code to implement a quick exploration by expansion choice (lvls 1-50, 51-60, 61-70, etc.) to FFXIV?

    The quick exploration loot pool will only grow with the next expansion and the likelihood of getting one of the rarer items will become non-existent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousPerson View Post
    Just a lil curious about the retainer ventures, both Hunting & the Field Explorations have the option to select the lvl of the venture.

    But that leaves out Quick Explorations; which has no lvl requirement and will yield you any drop from the game's loot pool ARR to END.

    So my question is, how difficult would it be 1.0 code being 1.0 code to implement a quick exploration by expansion choice (lvls 1-50, 51-60, 61-70, etc.) to FFXIV?

    The quick exploration loot pool will only grow with the next expansion and the likelihood of getting one of the rarer items will become non-existent.
    I believe it's possible to do that to a degree because I believe the loot pool for quick exploration is still influenced by the lvl of the retainer and the ilvl of the gear they have on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    I believe it's possible to do that to a degree because I believe the loot pool for quick exploration is still influenced by the lvl of the retainer and the ilvl of the gear they have on.
    Maybe not so much ilvl, but it's definitely influenced by the lvl of the job on the retainer, did a thingy and capped alts by expansion, but the eventual leveling of that job past 50 still in ARR got me drops from HW so...

    My retainers have lvl 1-15 gear and are lvl 90 on main and my quick exploration venture loot are always randomized.
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    Last edited by CuriousPerson; 11-30-2023 at 03:23 PM.

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    It's mostly based on their ILVL. The higher the ILVL the rarer items can be that is brought back. With maxed out ILVL they can even bring back Mogstation items on a rare occasion. Once one brought back a fantasia and not the one for retainers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    It's mostly based on their ILVL. The higher the ILVL the rarer items can be that is brought back. With maxed out ILVL they can even bring back Mogstation items on a rare occasion. Once one brought back a fantasia and not the one for retainers.
    I want to doubt higher ilvl the higher the chance of a rarer item because in my time, the rarest thing I got around July of 2023 was a Onion Doublet (can post proof), a lot of venture coffers on alt, and a lot of cosmetic items.

    You wouldn't happen to have any links or other posts do validate your claims? Don't want to doubt but bringing back a Fantasia would cheat SE out of money (maybe you're thinking of a retainer fantasia?)
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    Retainer's exp level is the determining factor on the "level" of the obtained items in a Quick Venture, as in up to the retainer's level basically.
    The retainer's equipment level (iLvl) will effect a "bonus roll" that can increase the quantity and quality of items obtained, you will see a message "Your retainer's gear was sufficient to earn a greater reward" in the retainer's report, however it no longer effects the rarity of the items obtained.
    So, while under ilvl'ing your retainers does save you in upfront gear costs, it does gimp you in the items obtained a bit.

    These changes were made in patch 5.4, within the System section:
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...8c2f1094131070

    The following additions and adjustments have been made to retainer ventures:

    New retainer exploration venture levels have been added.

    The following additions and adjustments have been made to quick exploration:

    New items can be obtained by retainers that have reached maximum level.
    Retainers equipped with more powerful gear will receive items in greater quantities, with a greater chance of obtaining high-quality items.
    * Following this change, the chance to obtain rare items based on gear has been removed.
    Certain items previously obtainable via retainer ventures have been removed.
    The amount of experience gained via retainer ventures is fixed depending on the retainer's level.
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    Last edited by Kirika-; 11-30-2023 at 11:07 PM.
    Kirika Yuumura of the Noir

    The Soldats' Manor, home of the Noir and of Noir's Eorzean Natural History Museum and Aquarium
    Plot 7, Ward 22, Shirogane, Faerie

    Noir... It is the name of an ancient fate. Two maidens who govern death; the peace of the newly-born Noir hands protect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirika- View Post
    Retainer's exp level is the determining factor on the "level" of the obtained items in a Quick Venture, as in up to the retainer's level basically.
    The retainer's equipment level (iLvl) will effect a "bonus roll" that can increase the quantity and quality of items obtained, you will see a message "Your retainer's gear was sufficient to earn a greater reward" in the retainer's report, however it no longer effects the rarity of the items obtained.
    So, while under ilvl'ing your retainers does save you in upfront gear costs, it does gimp you in the items obtained a bit.

    These changes were made in patch 5.4, within the System section:
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...8c2f1094131070

    The following additions and adjustments have been made to retainer ventures:

    New retainer exploration venture levels have been added.

    The following additions and adjustments have been made to quick exploration:

    New items can be obtained by retainers that have reached maximum level.
    Retainers equipped with more powerful gear will receive items in greater quantities, with a greater chance of obtaining high-quality items.
    * Following this change, the chance to obtain rare items based on gear has been removed.
    Certain items previously obtainable via retainer ventures have been removed.
    The amount of experience gained via retainer ventures is fixed depending on the retainer's level.
    Tyty

    Got to love how vague the patchnotes can be sometimes. "certain items previously obtainable via retainer ventures have been removed." Like, which items! From which category? Hunting, Field Exploration or Quick Exploration? :')

    Can only pray FFXIV devs can be more transparent.
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    Mao has question. Anyone know if is matter whether or not retainer gear is stuffed full of materia?
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    For battle retainers, materia won’t affect anything, but gatherers can benefit from +gathering and +perception!
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