How would you rate Tank DPS rotations/abilities?

[SalamanderIX]

Dark Knight 9/10 - I for one love the resource management as it is. constantly throwing Edge of Shadow and Bloodspiller to prevent overcaps, and both buttons feel great to press so often, and look and sound great. Dark Knight has the best SFX for my ears. saving up your Shadowbringers and Plunges... how the job goes from relaxed to busy. A lot of GCDs to press and they all line up very easily. I don't know how it could be clunky as I find it the most smooth as it is more flexible, Dark Knight is awesome for packing most of its damage into OGCDS, your gcd just goes from combo to Bloodspiller, but I love that. No dumb "you got to press this" one offs like Goring Blade, Storm's Eye, Primal Rend, Sonic Break.. I like the important stuff on the ogcd because it makes timing easy and not having to worry about 'roll'

[OliverQ]

Kinda lackluster. I mostly play Paladin, and I love the Confiteor combo (don't take away my massive shiny blades!), but the overall rotation is really basic, and Atonement doesn't feel very good. Feels weak and monotonous.

I don't have GNB at 90 so can't comment on that, but I find Paladin a bit more enjoyable than Warrior or DRK - the mix of magic/melee is fun, I just wish there was more to it and less atonement spam.

At least Fell Cleave and Primal Rend feel good. Nothing about DRK feels impactful. Bloodspiller doesn't have the same powerful feel as Fell Cleave, and Shadowbringer is the weakest 90 ability of any of the tanks.

[Derio]

My vote is

WAR 3/10: Its boring and needs more OGCDs. It is the WHM of the tanks in terms of rotation to where if you want to do your entire rotation using one hand while playing controller then WAR is for you. WAR is very very simple to where storms eye at this point is just a chore to not make the job completely brain dead.

Paladin 6/10: Its solid. Not great but not terrible. The biggest problem is PLD has button bloat and needs consolidation or combo system. Goring blade is awkward and the rework did help alot, but it also showed that PLD has some issues at its core that most likely will only be made worse in DT.

DRK 8/10: While DRK is very brain dead similar to WAR. It has the most flexibility in rotation in terms of the order you do your OGCDs and not be penalized as heavy. While the rotation does want for more and can leave you with hand cramps after a long prog session, the job still provides a fun experience despite it being a clone of WAR with more buttons.

GNB 9/10: In SHB it was perfect. In EW the added cartridge made it clunky but overall the core is still great and SHB gunbreaker is what should be the formula going forward.

[Shurrikhan]

Warrior 2.5/10
PLD 3/10
DRK 4/10
GNB 4.5 or 5/10...

But that's if I'm being nice, or only if already considering the most fun XIV rotations (to me, Triple Kick or Optimal Drift Monk and late-Shadowbringers high-SkS [3-GCDs-overclocked] SAM) a 10 instead of a 8 or 9, etc. (i.e., only if leaving no space for those, imo, best rotations' further potential). Still, will reserve 1/10 just for SCH/AST "rotations", so even WAR will have to be notably above that.

As sad as DRK's GCDs are, at least it has some bankability and oGCDs, and generally flows quite smoothly (and not just due to its simplicity), and that dense rush of oGCDs at least does something for me, more so than GNB's Continuation or the like.

Before the Bloodfest change, I would have given GNB a 5 or 5.5, but now there are fewer deviations shaking things up (just full bursts and off-minutes, instead of BF-bursts, lulls, non-BF-bursts, and BF-lulls).

Warrior is just DRK, but with less going on outside of a somewhat interesting GCD gap-closer-as-bonus-nuke.

Before the revision, PLD's rotation would have been a little higher for me. That's not to say the change was for the worst on the whole, even to me, but its charms aren't in its rotation (instead, in situational delaying of Divine Might and other things basically only relevant to dungeon chain-pulls.

[GoatOfWar]

Gnb>Drk>Pld>War

Gun breaker keeps my attention throughout an entire fight, because it's on a 30 second loop.
Drk has the most impressive burst phases, but unfortunately a lot of downtime inbetween the 60 second loops it has.
Paladin feels kinda slow but it has some standout moments, being able to cast your gcd from range without a real damage loss feels nice.
War is slooooooooooooooooooow, it's booooooooooooooooring.. The entire War shtick is just.. you're immortal, can do everything and you have your one over centralising ability that reminds me of why i quit playing healer. (Fel cleave) And the people playing this job have a chokehold on tank balance.. So i highly doubt tanks can ever really have rewarding and fun mechanics integrated into their gameplay loops as long as this job exists. All other tanks are just slowly turning into War because they're not allowed to do anything better.

[ThorneDynasty]

It went from PLD > GNB > WAR > DRK, to PLD being dead last so fast with the last rework it's ridiculous. I'm glad I at least decided to give PLD a chance at EW launch when it was comparatively at its prime, before this "streamlining" nonsense that left a baffling gutted mess. Why the do we need the Expl and Scorn as separate abilities now? Why do we need any DoTs, actually? Let's be honest, the only reason those buttons even exist anymore is because someone doesn't want to waste the animations. The 60s GCD button for a completely superfluous reminder of actual DoT management is just sad. It's a perfectly good job mangled into the 2 minute meta mold right now. Because it's not about making fun gameplay, it's about easier balancing since Square can't be bothered to hire more game designers to manage the extra workload from 4 expansion in their one inarguable and ongoing flagship success in the last 10 years.

[primarisgoazrr]

PLD: 8/10
GNB: 7/10
WAR: 6/10
DRK: 5.5/10

PLD is still my favorite to play, really they just had to adjust some things on the old rotation, but honestly I like where the new rotation is going. They just need to clean up some things: goring blade, cover, shield bash etc.

GNB while not being my favorite rotation, it feels like it has the most clear and distinct rotation/identity. The 3 cartridges does feel strange at times but that just might be a skill issue

WAR while I don’t hate that the rotation is simple, it feels like it needs that extra something/mechanic to added rotation, and obviously the healing needs to toned down a bit

DRK is WAR with more buttons and none of the healing the burst can be fun at times, but this job is definitely the one that needs the rework hammer that most right now