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  1. #1
    Player
    Reldhir's Avatar
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    Reldhir Ondoreil
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    Have you ever played DRG in any kind of high-end duty?
    You clearly have ZERO clue what you are talking about, life surge has slight intricacies due to it's 40sec cooldown and the way the GCD loops, I mean you don't even have a clue why mirage dive is separate from HJ and as people already pointed out your idea is so bad even the devs backtracked on it in record time, so I doubt you've ever done a proper 6min+ life surge loop. Not to mention the consequences and interactions of skillspeed on life surge and kill/phase speed in crit/ultimates, incredibly reductive calling it an ability that increases a meaningless number and does nothing for the jobs actual gameplay.
    Anyways DRG has no bloat and every oGCD has its place in the rotation.
    I mean.... that's a bit much. The thread is just a for funsies say what you want for the job thread. There's really no need to make things personal lol. The chap also shouldn't need to justify why they want what they want with how "skilled" they are at the game. Lotsa people play this game and lotsa people want what they want for different reasons. You've posted several times that you believe DRG is not bloated and many people still believe otherwise, and thats okay! Just agree to disagree, there's no need to call people out or question their abilities or try to impose your implied superiority, that's not the objective here xD chill brother, we're all fans here.

    Also, taking your arguments into consideration I still personally believe skills like lance charge and life surge are lowest on the totem pole of cool skills and thats why I still believe and hence why I put it on my wishlist for them to get axed first. Im not ignoring their merits or how they fall in the current DRG kit, just that I'm of the opinion that theyd be the least consquential to what I believe makes DRG, DRG. If they were removed for something...I don't know exactly what! But IF something were to be removed to make way for more DRG coolness. I would be least sad for those two xD

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    For the record there are other skills that I wouldnt mind making the cut either! Battle litany? Has always been a ehh skill to me doesnt give me the DRG flavour but it's a raid buff and my brain is too smol to figure out a cool alternative to that. Best I could manage is to reflavour the animation and name but as a piece of kit in the DRG rotation ive no idea which is why it didnt make the chopping block on my list.

    Also, also, life surge really isnt that complicated a skill, you just throw it on heavens thrust whenever its available, or you throw it on the #5 GCD (fang or wheeling) when under buffs in the 2min. Its really brainded so im not seeing the intricacies? But maybe im just not that good at drg lol please enlighten me (hopefully in a non judgy overly agressive way)
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    Last edited by Reldhir; 05-07-2024 at 01:43 PM. Reason: Extra thoughts

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    Arohk's Avatar
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    Lucretia Ryusagi
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    There is only one thing i wish to see across the board, and that is reduction of the button bloat on all jobs, consolidation of combo abilities.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Combo consolidation is about 7th on the list of ways to reduce action bloat

    They need to get rid of the pointless bloat of oGCD’s you press once per minute or 2 that have no interaction with the kit they are just a flashy bloat button in the burst window
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 05-07-2024 at 06:38 PM.

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    Sylvain's Avatar
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Combo consolidation is about 7th on the list of ways to reduce action bloat

    They need to get rid of the pointless bloat of oGCD’s you press once per minute or 2 that have no interaction with the kit they are yoshi a flashy bloat button in the burst window
    **Shadowbringer** cough cough
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    Pocket Hubris
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    Leviathan
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    Bard Lv 94
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Combo consolidation is about 7th on the list of ways to reduce action bloat

    They need to get rid of the pointless bloat of oGCD’s you press once per minute or 2 that have no interaction with the kit they are just a flashy bloat button in the burst window
    Yeah I would like to see more of these abilities woven into the general rotation instead of a burst window. DRK really comes to mind...

    I don't like the way that execution is being pushed into the 2 minute burst with some jobs having long stretches of simpler maintenance.
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    ThorneDynasty's Avatar
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    Gisela Thorne
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    If you want to remove all combo interactions, buff/debuff management and just spam one button, go play healer?
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    Reldhir Ondoreil
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    Huh? I'm not "worked up" just because my posts aren't "lmao XD I think ur drg suggestions :P aren't good haha XD and u dont know rofl lol xD wat ur talking about lmao XD XD @w@;;;;;;"
    Fair enough...

    ...xD

    Gomen
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    kuroashi_sanji's Avatar
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    Shiroe Lelouch
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    More buttons to press and more positionals for melee DPS
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    Last edited by kuroashi_sanji; 05-08-2024 at 09:42 AM.
    sorry for my bad english
    R.I.P DRG

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    Character
    O'ssu Mecia
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    Twintania
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    All of my wishes come down to the 2m meta and how boring its made most jobs. More to do between the 2 minutes please.

    For BLM, something has always irked me about Thunder but i cant think of why and i have no suggestions.
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    Princess- Princess
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 100
    For pictomancer. I just want to have an ability to paint a party member to fight by my side for 15 seconds lol.
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