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    Quote Originally Posted by Scintilla View Post
    This isn't an 'over-performing' players vs 'under-performing' players issue. In random games, there are a mix of extremely capable veterans and completely new players, but despite this mixture of player experience, FL matches remain competitive and balanced. It is only these games in which the premades exists where problems come about.

    And to describe them as 'over-performing' seems almost laughable. I would argue it takes far, far less skill to win as a premade than it does to guide a random team to victory. A random match requires coordinating an unknown team, the balance of objectives and PvP, adjusting tactics as necessary to reflect your team or changes in the situation.
    A premade is purely: get a group of 4 friends on a voice chat, use chat to simultaneously voke, remove Guard, and LB, then flee while the alliance covers your escape. No objectives needed, minimal alliance coordination - once they realise there's free kills on offer, most will blindly follow you around the map.

    And sadly, in some circumstances there is no way to combat this, regardless of whether you're an experienced FL player or not.
    Many people make the claim that the DRK combo is very easy to pull off and requires no skill, so why doesn't everyone do it then? Have you ever seen a bad DRK+AST group? I've seen many, they feed the enemy team a lot because they think they're meta and invincible.

    As for how to combat this combo when the pre-made is actually good? There is one way that almost always works. Flank the enemy and dive their backline as the pre-made makes their charge, the backline will flee and condemn the 4 man pre-made to die. ASTs are basically food, the DRK will usually get away, but that's fine, just feed on the ASTs and they'll never gain battle high. No matter how good the pre-made is, they cannot control 20 other people, when people get flanked, their first instinct is to flee. If no one follows-up, the pre-made is basically useless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scintilla View Post
    So why you seem to feel that we are placing accusations against the premade teams personally, I'm not sure.
    Some people in this very thread have claimed that the pre-mades are griefing or being disruptive. None of that is true, they're simply using the tools available to them to win the game. If some start mocking people, then sure, they're being toxic. But most are simply using the means available to them to win, nothing wrong with that.
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    Last edited by Aravell; 12-16-2023 at 07:17 PM.