Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
First of all, I never said it was an AST issue. In fact, I said that it's not any single job, but multiples of some being stacked together. And you're saying my suggestions to nerf won't work, but "adjustments" will? Okay semantics.

The screen grab has something to do with it because when confronted about their behaviour, they revel in it. Look at the posts above you, it's relevant.

You also really don't understand that the solution to a party comp that always wins is not the same party comp. Ever heard of how fighting fire with fire just makes more fire? And yes, every time I've seen that specific group, they've won every single time. They don't have to be strategic, they don't even have to take the objectives, they just follow the single DRK, pull in a bunch of people, nuke them, repeat. They always win. I've never seen them lose. They win enough that they're committed to doing it all the time. Do you really not understand? Shot-calling does nothing. There are people trying to win by grouping up and playing better and it still doesn't stop these people, hence my problem. Stop putting the blame on me and start acknowledging that something is wrong.
So, what exactly are you trying to do here? You're talking about my "blaming" you, when you're posting about an issue that you're having, which I know nothing about, and when I make some suggestions about how you might succeed with what sounds like a specific premade, you get self-defensive.

What is your objective here? Do you want to win your matches, or do you want to go ahead and start nerfing jobs? Because I prefer to find out how to win. Because frequently (not always), when the discussion goes to "nerf this job"- then the people who want a job nerfed then move on to the next target, and the cycle of nerfs and buffs goes on and on. In any case- it won't help you right now.

No one is forcing you to use the same composition. I didn't say that. I've been in fights where we beat teams that *should* have beat us because they had the "meta" jobs- but they didn't. I suggested shot-calling, because you seem to have come up against them often enough to have learned their tactics- if you can't understand why that should help you- then I agree, something sounds very wrong, that premade is playing better than you, and they deserve to win.