In DAWNTRAILS, will 1 or 2 primals be added to Summoner's rotation?

[Nighthawky2010]

Even though we still have a while to go for the JP Fanfest, DT media tours, etc. As far as Summoner goes, do you think they will add another primal or two to the rotation? I will be honest with you, I do miss some of the spells from the old summoner like Shadow Flare & the original use for BANE.

Will Leviathan be added? I would love to see Ramuh be added to the rotation!!

[Laerune]

They should add Levy, Ramuh and Shiva.

[Jeeqbit]

They will probably add one.

[CaptainLagbeard]

Their rotation is fine as it is, probably just gonna see new OGCDs added to it... Unless they completely rework the class, again.

Hopefully a Physick buff that's like 3 expansions late, to make it scale with INT rather than MND like RDM's Vercure does...

[ryouma17]

Their rotation is fine as it is.

agreed summoner is currently perfecto they dont need to go and ruin it

[Visanis]

With how SMN is now, I fully expect that any new primals added will just be a reskin for the current ones based on whether you used Bahamut or Phoenix.

Either that or they become fire and forget oGCDs.

[ThaCa]

Passive changes Physik to AoE Heal Summon.

Fester and Energy Drain get renamed/modeled into Primal abilities.

[Cabalabob]

I could see them taking the lazy route and just adding ramuh, leviathan and shiva as upgrades to Titan, ifrit and garuda in the Phoenix phase spread out across the 10 levels then giving us an elder primal like Odin as the capstone new demi summon which would then set them up for a holding pattern into the future (next expansion Sephirot, sophia, zurvan in the Odin phase with capstone Alexander).

If they were gonna put in a little more work, I’d personally love them to get rid of all traces of arcanist from the job, energy drain/siphon, fester and painflare really feel like button bloat at this point that could just be removed and have their potency added elsewhere, maybe they could remove physick and resurrection and give carbuncle healing ruby and some new revive move as oGCDs to A. Give carbuncle some love B. Differentiate it more from RDM. And if we’re really talking wishlist, remove ruin too, replace it with summon assault I and II making carbuncle perform an attack (that’s basically ruin but now it’s actually a pet doing something!) which then upgrades to wyrm wave when you summon Bahamut etc. with potency adjusted accordingly.

[SannaR]

I could see them taking the lazy route and just adding ramuh, leviathan and shiva as upgrades to Titan, ifrit and garuda in the Phoenix phase spread out across the 10 levels then giving us an elder primal like Odin as the capstone new demi summon which would then set them up for a holding pattern into the future (next expansion Sephirot, sophia, zurvan in the Odin phase with capstone Alexander).

If they were gonna put in a little more work, I’d personally love them to get rid of all traces of arcanist from the job, energy drain/siphon, fester and painflare really feel like button bloat at this point that could just be removed and have their potency added elsewhere, maybe they could remove physick and resurrection and give carbuncle healing ruby and some new revive move as oGCDs to A. Give carbuncle some love B. Differentiate it more from RDM. And if we’re really talking wishlist, remove ruin too, replace it with summon assault I and II making carbuncle perform an attack (that’s basically ruin but now it’s actually a pet doing something!) which then upgrades to wyrm wave when you summon Bahamut etc. with potency adjusted accordingly.

They wouldn't give us Odin or Alexander due to how those two work and one's signature move being a KO. Unless they go the XI route where Odin was just a big hit for most things and Alexander was a very strong shield. I don't think they'll give us more primals. I feel they'll go back to making the rotation more complex than how brain dead it is. I do hope that they do make physic scale with int and that carbuncle gets to gain some moves of its own back.

[Cabalabob]

They wouldn't give us Odin or Alexander due to how those two work and one's signature move being a KO. Unless they go the XI route where Odin was just a big hit for most things and Alexander was a very strong shield. I don't think they'll give us more primals. I feel they'll go back to making the rotation more complex than how brain dead it is. I do hope that they do make physic scale with int and that carbuncle gets to gain some moves of its own back.

None of our existing demis use their ultimates. Bahamut uses the made up wyrmwave for his auto attack and his enkindle is his tankbuster from T13, Akh Morn. Phoenix uses scarlet flame, another made up move, and Revelation, his tankbuster from T12. It follows that Odin would then use Sanngetall, his tankbuster from Urth’s fount and Alexander would use Punishing Heat his tankbuster from A12 while their auto attack could be anything and like Phoenix’s everlasting flight they could throw any random gimmick in on their summoning to make them unique like giving Alexander a shield.