Hardcorefest (Fun)vs Grindfest

[Alhanelem]

When I asked Se to make this game more grindcore.
I don't mean make it a hardcore fest...

When I asked se to make this game less Time consuming...
I don't mean make it like a no time at all thing...

... lol I can't keep it up. Anyway-

Hardcores and casuals can coexist. The fact is hardcores are a minority. Not all content can be built for hardcore. I don't think Hamlet defense (which is what you're really complaining about) is going to be an endgame activity in the long term. Thus, I wouldnt really change it much. Eventually, you will be moving on to a new endgame content and you won't care about Hamlet anymore, it will become a more casual thing.

The fact is, for a more casual player who hasn't spammed it enough to get it perfect yet, hamlet defense can actually be kind of challenging. My first few runs were with pickup groups and we all got humiliated. Then I went with a more planned out team with a specific goal in mind and it went smooth as butter. Difficulty is subjective.
edit-

yes, i got an idea:
don't do a thread with hardcore vs casual in title, because they get a flame-hole. Seriusly.

Pretty much this... don't throw around words like hardcore and casual when that's not really the issue of the thread.

[Gukie]

it isn't an issue about hardcore or causality- it's about how boring hamlet is.
We constantly have to do hamlet over and over and over and over to get all seals.
or
we constaintly craft over and over and over and over.

It shouldn't be grinding Spamming same thing over and over and over the way i keep saying or and or and or and.

It should be fights that's fun to do. not having to do it over and over and over.

overall it should be based on your skill.
like ifrit Extreme and garuda,
not a time consuming boring thing you do in hamlet.

I also forgot to say I don't mind time consuming stuff, But at least fun??? and challenging? not spamming over and over and over.

Unless your trying to get a drop off hamlet like the miner hat- that should be rare drop
seal's shouldn't be that rare if the battle was worth the drop.
The battle should be the hard part to actually get a seal.
then again hamlet is easy... and that's what makes it boring...


The amount of time you do get Artifact weapon is fine....
the things you do to get it??? is borring...

Ifrit and garuda is fine-
hamlet is borring... getting stuff to get into hamlet is even more boredom and grind fest.

Crafting is fun in a way but if you got craft 2970 time to get in hamlet to be first... or even get it to rank 2 that stuff is borring. It should be based on your effort- not the effort that the rest of the server gives. You can slack also and go in since the server made it to 2nd rank. (that right there inst fair)