Dancer 7.0 Wishlist

[LynxDubh]

Does anyone have anything they wanna see for Dancer in Dawntrail? Either new skills or tuning of the current kits?

For my list of major wants:
-Have both Fountain and Bladeshower combo off of either Cascade or Windmill. They changed the procs for EW to let the single target and aoe flow better. This is the logical next step.
-Make Standard Step's cooldown affected by skill speed like Gunbreaker's Sonic Break. This would help combat a bit of drifting and let you fix minor timing and ping nonsense.
-More utility buttons. The rotation of Dancer is mostly fine and cool utility is what I'd want over too many finishers.

For minor wants:
-Increase the size of Curing Waltz by 1 or 2 yalms. Not much, but it would make using it with squirrely melees less finicky and give more room for error.
-Keep Improvisation as is. Maybe tweek the numbers if that. I know it's clunky, and this is probably more of a selfish request. But, the jank of double weaving Improvisation to fit it between a single weave window is kinda fun. Most skills have been heavily ironed out to be kinda samey nowadays, I just want one silly janky skill to use.

[mallleable]

Not a dancer main, but it would either be the most fun or the worst thing ever if there was an attack that procced off En Avant.

[LynxDubh]

I'm not sure I'd like something in the rotation of Dancer tied to En Avant. It's already a part of PvP and I'm not a fan of it there. It really chews through all your mobility.

[Mayhemmer]

I've gotten way more into DNC lately, but I don't think I'm qualified to give much more than just some QoL improvements. The only outright ability change I want is with Improvisation. I'd like it to be an instant, one-and-done press that gives the entire shield upon use, instead of being a stacking channel. Keep the regen, as well, of course. Maybe it makes more sense as it is for some people, but I never really get opportunities to channel up to maximum stacks.

Other than that, maybe condense some buttons. Having Flourish change into Fan Dance IV upon use, and Devilment into Starfall Dance upon use.

Having the size of Curing Waltz slightly increased would be nice.

[Raikai]

I'm pretty curious to what they have in store for Dancers. It is one of the DPS jobs that are at capacity during the 2min burst windows. What they can even fit? An upgraded Standard Step would be questionable since sometimes it won't even fit with the Saberdances. Another oGCD can be a problem if sometimes there's too many feathers to use. The only way I see is actually improving things you do outside of the TS windows.

As of a change I'd really like to see would be Closed Position having its recast time removed, basically being applied more freely, like its PVP iteration. This 'free' partner swap could lead to some interesting optimizations with jobs that have strong actions in the odd minute windows. Also minor, but a variation of CP to be usable on the dancer themselves to not be as shafted on solo scenarios.

[Rithy255]

I've gotten way more into DNC lately, but I don't think I'm qualified to give much more than just some QoL improvements. The only outright ability change I want is with Improvisation. I'd like it to be an instant, one-and-done press that gives the entire shield upon use, instead of being a stacking channel. Keep the regen, as well, of course. Maybe it makes more sense as it is for some people, but I never really get opportunities to channel up to maximum stacks.

Other than that, maybe condense some buttons. Having Flourish change into Fan Dance IV upon use, and Devilment into Starfall Dance upon use.

Having the size of Curing Waltz slightly increased would be nice.

Agreed with this, I think I'd just like to see Dancers Improv be more consistently useful like bards/mchs "unique" raid wide utility. Extra Range on curing waltz? I'm fine with that i think the range can be more annoying in uncoordinated duties.

[Calysto]

make the procs WS have a chance to proc an upgraded Cascade/Windmill that can proc feathers too ?
charges on waltz ?

[SargeTheSeagull]

I mained DNC during abyssos for context. Make something proc starfall dance and fan dance 4 other than flourish and devilment. Having two buttons that you press only one time every minute or two minutes is stupid, especially on a proc based job. For that matter, add another GCD that consumes esprit. I’m not a fan (ha) of resources that are consumed exclusively by one ability. And no, I do not mean “add single target saber dance”. That is literally the last thing I want. Perhaps this esprit spender could consume 25 esprit, be on a ~30 second cooldown and consume any existing flourish procs and its potency and/or cooldown could increase based on if it consumed one or both.

[SargeTheSeagull]

Sorry for the double post, I’m on mobile and can’t edit. If they want to go crazy they could rework tech step from just a 2 minute buff to a persistent buff that you need to maintain as much as possible. Example, you dance to start it as you do now. Once it’s active, it increases everyone’s damage/healing by a tiny bit and it now drains a gauge that you can replenish by consuming feathers and flourishes. If the gauge depletes then tech step is off until it comes back off cooldown. People complain about the two minute meta, and frankly if the devs want to tackle the poster child for that, imo, it would be dancer’s tech step.

[Mayhemmer]

I mained DNC during abyssos for context. Make something proc starfall dance and fan dance 4 other than flourish and devilment. Having two buttons that you press only one time every minute or two minutes is stupid, especially on a proc based job. For that matter, add another GCD that consumes esprit. I’m not a fan (ha) of resources that are consumed exclusively by one ability. And no, I do not mean “add single target saber dance”. That is literally the last thing I want. Perhaps this esprit spender could consume 25 esprit, be on a ~30 second cooldown and consume any existing flourish procs and its potency and/or cooldown could increase based on if it consumed one or both.

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I hadn't considered anything deeper as this is just a wishlist thread, but I can get behind these ideas. I'd like fewer "press this every 1-2 minutes for a direct effect" buttons, and more tools and abilities that effect each other in varying ways, across the board for many jobs in general.