Petition for Instanced housing

[AlexiaD]

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People would NOT be happy with auto demolition for instanced houses, let me tell you, because it doesnt make sense at all, it doesnt even take space on the servers until you actually step inside of it, why would people accept an auto demo system ? People would literally riot lmao, you have no idea.

Also Balmung (and a few crystal worlds in general) are basically self inflicted issues, but my idea that I put on page 1 would fix that problem, dynamic housing would literally fix that issue entirely and people would be able to at least get a small house, with mediums and larges still staying rare.

Regarding Dynamis, it still is a more than valid option, even if you disagree with it, if you REALLY care about housing, you'd move, if not, then you truly dont care as much as you pretend to, its obvious the system is not changing anytime soon so it's really up to the players to decide if they care enough about a house or not to move.

And people asked for lottery, instead of having 10 or so people camping a house, you have 50+, that's what people wanted, they asked for a "fair" chance for literally everyone, and we got it. It's all fair now.

Except it won't happen beyond what we got for Island Sanctuary because, again, ward housing is what SE wants to create a need to stay subscribed to the game. If we were going to get true instanced, we would have gotten it with IS. They literally hooked it into the housing servers lmao. SE gains nothing by putting in instanced in, literally nothing.

I get that Storm makes some hot takes sometimes but yall really need to direct your anger to the right place.

Exactly this, idk why this guy (and multiple others as well) think raging at me is going to do anything, they should rage at SE if anything lmao, but hey it's better to blame multiowners or fight in between house owners apparently.

Instanced housing if it was going to happen was going to happen with IS, that's what everyone was hyping up, and it didnt, it's time for yall to get the hint that they dont want it.

[Sourcy]

Regarding Dynamis, it still is a more than valid option, even if you disagree with it, if you REALLY care about housing, you'd move, if not, then you truly dont care as much as you pretend to, its obvious the system is not changing anytime soon so it's really up to the players to decide if they care enough about a house or not to move.

Like clockwork. I called it.

People are already unhappy. They have been unhappy for YEARS. Square does not care. Autodemoing Instanced housing would suck sure til you realize "Oh I can just buy another one." Yeah you're out gil and decorating time but you still have all the items.

And as I said before. It is not just "Balmung and a few crystal shards" problem. It's ALL of Crystal and ALL of Aether. Balmung is just the worst example.

[AlexiaD]

Like clockwork. I called it.

People are already unhappy. They have been unhappy for YEARS. Square does not care. Autodemoing Instanced housing would suck sure til you realize "Oh I can just buy another one." Yeah you're out gil and decorating time but you still have all the items.

And as I said before. It is not just "Balmung and a few crystal shards" problem. It's ALL of Crystal and ALL of Aether. Balmung is just the worst example.

I aint a dev, I can only give you the only solution that exists which is to either keep bidding endlessly, or move, I cant invent something to help you, that's why I'm saying that moving to Dynamis is the solution, I cant create a solution myself.

I said this a while ago when lottery first was announced and people were excited for it that it wouldn't be the dream process they want. All it did was make it easier for more people to bid on a plot and people who multi-account can still just put bids on all of their characters and weight the lottery.

Ya'll kinda shot yourself in the foot on this one, I really doubt that Square is going to take the time in the near future to fix it when this was demanded by the community above instanced housing and implemented pretty recently.

This.

People wanted fair, yall got fair, now enjoy it.

[LianaThorne]

Like clockwork. I called it.

People are already unhappy. They have been unhappy for YEARS. Square does not care. Autodemoing Instanced housing would suck sure til you realize "Oh I can just buy another one." Yeah you're out gil and decorating time but you still have all the items.

And as I said before. It is not just "Balmung and a few crystal shards" problem. It's ALL of Crystal and ALL of Aether. Balmung is just the worst example.

Honestly, this would be the route they would probably take if we were to get instanced because it still provides the means for them to hook people in via subscriptions (probably even on a larger scale than what they have now with ward housing). Money is going to be their biggest priority right now, especially after this:
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/...y-16s-release/

[LianaThorne]

And people asked for lottery, instead of having 10 or so people camping a house, you have 50+, that's what people wanted, they asked for a "fair" chance for literally everyone, and we got it. It's all fair now.

I said this a while ago when lottery first was announced and people were excited for it that it wouldn't be the dream process they want. All it did was make it easier for more people to bid on a plot and people who multi-account can still just put bids on all of their characters and weight the lottery.

Ya'll kinda shot yourself in the foot on this one, I really doubt that Square is going to take the time in the near future to fix it when this was demanded by the community above instanced housing and implemented pretty recently.

[SonjaRampage]

People begged for the lottery system we have now so its funny to see all the complaining about it. Its not that hard to get a house either way i see smalls come up in my mist ward on balmung with some frequency and managed to buy 2 of the said smalls right next to each other while being the only bidder on the plots cuz they were smalls and therefore undesirable?

I think some of the possible solutions presented here make good sense like the different sized apartments with a gardening balcony, and definitely more of them available. Or maybe dynamic plots that you can upgrade the size of without moving to a different plot.

But like others have said the housing system is designed to be a subscription anchor so you can't unsub between patches without taking losses to your house which i completely believe is intended.

[Khryseis_Astra]

There’s been lots of threads about this… OP check out the housing forum. Many of us who are in favor of instanced housing have a lot of ideas for how it could work and things we’d like to see.

While the devs have said they like the neighborhood feel of the wards, they know the scarcity is a problem: the question is what they’re willing to do about it, and/or what they are able to do. And lately we’ve seen them experimenting with what they can do in an instances setting… IS being the biggest example. An instanced area can let you place at least 90 outdoor furnishings, and have buildings with open air balconies! There’s discussion of housing mirage, in which you could essentially be able to have any size interior inside any size exterior. How? Because the insides are instanced already, and they can do more there without worrying about server drain. Quoting the translation I found from a patch note reading: “we are promoting specifications such as changing the interior of a house with a completely different size that is scheduled to be in patch 7.x but does not have pillars… a mirage-like setting?” There’s a lot that can be inferred from that statement and some of it we’re just guessing at until then, but the devs are moving to do more with instanced spaces.

Most of those campaigning for instanced housing want it to be an addition to ward housing, NOT a replacement. Let anyone who wants to keep at the lotto go for it, most who want instanced housing just want a place of their own with an indoor and outdoor space to decorate. It’s not going to take away from the “prestige” of the ward owners… easy as it could be to recreate actual ward plots, if they do it at all, you’d probably get one generic plot of each size per neighborhood theme. And that’s fine.

Dynamic housing would be great, sure, but that’s something I don’t see happening with the existing server setup… the wards have to be permanently loaded, whereas instances do not. Now it could be a possibility if they could use the cloud servers to do it, but beyond trying to handle increased logins during Dawntrail release, we don’t really have any statements about any specific plans for how they’re going to use the cloud servers. In a way, it’s a shame they didn’t have them tested and ready to go before they released Dynamis, and had it put on the cloud. A lot of people would’ve been more willing to transfer for the better ping!

But at any rate, they are experimenting with new ideas and new tech. And I’m on the side of having as many options as possible. Adding something that others want doesn’t take anything away from those who already have a scarce resource (or multiple, as the case may be…). We all pay a sub to play, we should all have full access to every feature of the game.

[Atelier-Bagur]

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Its interesting how if they used their resources for IS to be a full on alternative for housing, people would be a lot happier. Im coping that it winds up becoming that when they drop its final update patch but we dont know.

[Kyrj]

Man they really conditioned you guys to accept garbage systems huh? Pathetic.

[Boblawblah]

Man they really conditioned you guys to accept garbage systems huh? Pathetic.

I think it's more "I've got where I am using this garbage system and I'd be frustrated if they let everyone have what I have with a better system."

For some, seeing everyone having large houses would devalue large houses in their opinion. I personally would love to see everyone have whatever house they want but I also haven't spent thousands of extra dollars on extra accounts/subs to have more houses.