Cloud DC Proves Cross-Region Travel is OK

[Jeeqbit]

I mean I have fought hunts and achievement FATEs with this variety. I've joined PFs with this mixture. I've had JP language set so I have been matched with them in Duty Finder. Maybe with a bigger sample of NA/EU, there would be 1 "toxic" person, but so far, I have not seen it at all and we've all got along. There are a lot of JP players there as well.

I find it hard to imagine there isn't 1 "toxic" person in the JP region as well. That's just how it is. There's always a few people that can be described as that anywhere you go.

But I find it interesting how this Cloud test has also been a test of cultures mixing and how we all just work with it.

[Remish]

Every other purpose, cross-DC travel has been perfectly fine.

Big disagree on this one chief.

It might be perfectly fine to a normal person. For others like myself it's been more a headache.

It's fundamentally killed any normal FC that isn't a venue, clique of friends, or role playing in some degree. My social engagement has unironically gone down with visits.
I'm never really home anymore because I have to constantly travel to do any content at all including maps, hunts, ect. Which are actually more stressful to get into. Trying to find hunt linkshells and keep track of trains is stressful because of how conductors handle it.
RP has completely overtaken PF for the most part. In addition, you can't keep people in an FC anymore because they are always off server anyway. PvP queue times have taken a bit of a hit as well as far more premades in the likes of Frontlines. Which are stressful to play against if you aren't on their team. I can never tell what DC or server is best for stuff like Eureka, Bozja, Fate grinding, Deep Dungeon pairings, ect.

The sentiment atm is to just go to Aether for everything and anything. I have even considered giving up my house here on Goblin because I don't feel like I get to be home anymore. My retainers and my Island Sanctuary have fallen behind because it's inconvenient to return home. For certain types of people, this has probably improved their gaming experience but all it's done is ruin mine while making me feel like RP is the only thing I get invited to by friends.

PS: It's pushed Discord more as the main method to get anything done. Which isn't bad, but trying to even find what discord you even need for certain things can be a chore to track down. And the discord part is likely where the cross-DC stuff might start to get a bit complicated between regions.

[Nebelheim]

My point that you seem to have missed is that the purported reason for them not wanting it was NA's toxicity. I wanted to point out the hypocrisy of that objection.

They don't want NA and EU toxicity but yet there just as toxic or even more toxic then those communities to the point of putting people on public blacklist websites ganging up on people to harass them to the point of getting people to delete characters and out casting them and doxxing simply for how people perform in duties. Or send death threats when developers implement something they don't like.

[Jeeqbit]

It's fundamentally killed any normal FC that isn't a venue, clique of friends, or role playing in some degree.

FCs that aren't one of those things were probably dead anyway or not really talking much. If they are destroyed due to visiting other worlds for raids, that is again solved if they prevent the public version of the High-End tab working on other data centers.

I have to constantly travel to do any content at all including maps, hunts, ect.

Maps aren't even DC-restricted. They are world restricted, so this would have been an issue since World Visiting if it was the reason people were traveling away, but it's not. So nobody even bothers trying to go elsewhere for them, not intentionally anyway.

It's always been difficult to recruit in PF for maps sometimes (other times it's easy). Depends on the time.

It's very common for maps to be done by FCs or friends anyway, and older ones can often be done without a full party. I've duo'd both the Endwalker ones multiple times.

Trying to find hunt linkshells and keep track of trains is stressful because of how conductors handle it.

It's not really stressful. Just wait for information about a hunt train. If you are in a dungeon when you get the information, then that's fine, you can just catch a different train instead. They happen across 8 different worlds (unless you're on Dynamis or Materia), and you can even DC travel for them if you want.

DC travel hasn't prevented trains being run on other data centers; in fact, they couldn't be busier.

RP has completely overtaken PF for the most part.

What does that have to do with DC travel? Crystal was always full of RP in the Other tab. It is on other data centers as well. I just don't look at the Other tab much.

In addition, you can't keep people in an FC anymore because they are always off server anyway.

Off server is fine because you can use FC chat across worlds. It is only off data center that is the problem. And the most likely reason they would be off data center all the time is either to raid (which blocking the public High-End category would solve as previously mentioned), or because they are from Dynamis.

PvP queue times have taken a bit of a hit as well as far more premades in the likes of Frontlines.

People say that Primal is the PvP data center. I have no trouble with it on Aether at all. But that's fine, they could block PvP queues while visiting other data centers as well.

I can never tell what DC or server is best for stuff like Eureka, Bozja, Fate grinding, Deep Dungeon pairings, ect.

• Eureka, probably any except Dynamis.
• Bozja, probably any except Dynamis as well.
• FATE Grinding, none, because you rarely see PFs for it anywhere after the expansion has been out for a bit. The people who grind them usually don't make PFs and just solo them, so you have to visit different worlds to see if one has a rare PF up for them, or just go to the areas and see if someone is completing all the FATEs and join them.
• Deep dungeons probably none as well, because I feel that POTD has got old, HoH has always been pretty abandoned and EO got abandoned almost immediately with queues being poor even when it released which led to me soloing 1-30 of EO instead.

[LianaThorne]

And the most likely reason they would be off data center all the time is either to raid (which blocking the public High-End category would solve as previously mentioned), or because they are from Dynamis.

This is kind of true and false at the same time. People are congregating to Aether because it's now the "general content" DC, not just the "raid DC". Queues for normal content are noticeably longer on the other 2 DCs (I'm excluding Dyna for obvious reasons) compared to a year or so ago, in my opinion. To be fair, when the WoW Exodus happened a vast majority went to Aether to follow streamers so it's only natural we'd see some sort of larger quantity of players there than the others, but DC travel really made it worse. Party Finders on Primal and Crystal go into the single digits during the early hours compared to Aether which sits in the double or triple digits regardless of what time you go there for content ranging from simple roulettes to end-game raiding. Personally I think if things don't change then it might really start hurting Primal and Crystal in a similar way that it hurt Dynamis.

[Bonoki]

This is kind of true and false at the same time. People are congregating to Aether because it's now the "general content" DC, not just the "raid DC". Queues for normal content are noticeably longer on the other 2 DCs (I'm excluding Dyna for obvious reasons) compared to a year or so ago, in my opinion. To be fair, when the WoW Exodus happened a vast majority went to Aether to follow streamers so it's only natural we'd see some sort of larger quantity of players there than the others, but DC travel really made it worse. Party Finders on Primal and Crystal go into the single digits during the early hours compared to Aether which sits in the double or triple digits regardless of what time you go there for content ranging from simple roulettes to end-game raiding. Personally I think if things don't change then it might really start hurting Primal and Crystal in a similar way that it hurt Dynamis.

Something does need to be done, but I can't really put my finger on exactly what. I have heard that finding RP even on Balmung is slowly becoming more difficult despite how busy the Quicksand appears. The demographic personality types of people afking in the QS has changed with DC visits. Some of my connections have mentioned that they get better RP, and even ERP for that matter over in Aether as well. Balmung is slowly becoming less an ideal RP hub and more of just global hangout.

[Stormpeaks]

This is kind of true and false at the same time. People are congregating to Aether because it's now the "general content" DC, not just the "raid DC". Queues for normal content are noticeably longer on the other 2 DCs (I'm excluding Dyna for obvious reasons) compared to a year or so ago, in my opinion. To be fair, when the WoW Exodus happened a vast majority went to Aether to follow streamers so it's only natural we'd see some sort of larger quantity of players there than the others, but DC travel really made it worse. Party Finders on Primal and Crystal go into the single digits during the early hours compared to Aether which sits in the double or triple digits regardless of what time you go there for content ranging from simple roulettes to end-game raiding. Personally I think if things don't change then it might really start hurting Primal and Crystal in a similar way that it hurt Dynamis.

Dynamis actually had 0 chance of survival thanks to DC travel, it was literally dead on arrival, its now only or at least mostly used by multiowners of houses or some new players that will eventually move to the other dcs once they realize how dead our DC is.

[Bonoki]

Dynamis actually had 0 chance of survival thanks to DC travel, it was literally dead on arrival, its now only or at least mostly used by multiowners of houses or some new players that will eventually move to the other dcs once they realize how dead our DC is.

Pretty much this and tbh, I'm not entirely sure if even cross PF/DF would even save it at this point. Sure, people could stay at home over there now (if it's not to late for them to get one), but it'd still be mostly a ghost town experience I reckon.

[Toukichiful]

Just add DC region to Region travel already if you don't want to use it just don't simple as

[Jeeqbit]

This is kind of true and false at the same time. People are congregating to Aether because it's now the "general content" DC, not just the "raid DC".

How can we be completely sure of that without seeing what happens when it's not used for High-End raids? If you don't need to go for High-End raids, there's no point in going at all for normal content like dungeons, which are going to be trivial to complete and trivial to get queues for due to roulettes.

They probably just do normal content on Aether because they are there already for raids and it's convenient.