I can’t enjoy Reaper

[True-to-Caesar]

Leveled up one at 6.0, lvl 90 and all that. I tried to get back to it again lately.
Coming from SAM, it just feels like a slow old man :

Enshroud when old man takes pills to get it on. Shortly after it’s so painfully slow, to the point I’m under the impression of being in an ARR dungeon.

Yes you do have a 30s skill with 2 stacks to make it more «*alive*».
But either I’m missing something or the whole gameplay is just about an old fart using viagra pills for small bursts and then getting exhausted for 70% of the duty.

[Mikey_R]

That's fine, you don't have to like every job.

[MonsutaMan]

That's fine, you don't have to like every job.

What if you really don't like any of them?

(...Wait a min....why am I here....)

[SargeTheSeagull]

The entire point of having more than 1 job in a game is so that if you don't like Job A you may like Job B.

[True-to-Caesar]

The entire point of having more than 1 job in a game is so that if you don't like Job A you may like Job B.

I know I know, just wish I could enjoy it is all. Guess I’ll just settle for SAM & MCH for dps

[ataren3]

The entire point of having more than 1 job in a game is so that if you don't like Job A you may like Job B.

That's fine and all but there are people that would really love to play a Scythe-style DPS class but just get turned off by the way the class plays. It's the same process as someone trying out a healer class. If I enjoy healing in an MMO, why do the healing aspect of these classes in this game feel so lackluster?

[Hurlstone]

That's fine and all but there are people that would really love to play a Scythe-style DPS class but just get turned off by the way the class plays. It's the same process as someone trying out a healer class. If I enjoy healing in an MMO, why do the healing aspect of these classes in this game feel so lackluster?

That is unfortunately going to be the way with every class. They will never be able to get a playstyle or Job that is universally loved, no matter how much they rejig, buff or nerf them. There will always be someone who wants to heal, tank or poke things with a spear that dislikes what the game offers. If another game provides a more favourable experience then thats great, but it would be boring if ever MMO had the same style of gameplay. Constructive criticism should always be given yes, but sometimes a personal preference is a subjective matter.

[ataren3]

That is unfortunately going to be the way with every class. They will never be able to get a playstyle or Job that is universally loved, no matter how much they rejig, buff or nerf them. There will always be someone who wants to heal, tank or poke things with a spear that dislikes what the game offers. If another game provides a more favourable experience then thats great, but it would be boring if ever MMO had the same style of gameplay. Constructive criticism should always be given yes, but sometimes a personal preference is a subjective matter.

And that's the unfortunate catch-22 in FF14 and really most games. Is there a way to make every class fun for everyone? ...Sort of, you can introduce the whole skill-tree or cross classing to add more flair to the base class to customize the user's experience. However that comes at the cost of balance. And complexity.

Giving someone 5 different options for a melee style dps is a lot simpler to maintain and balance than five classes having a branching skill tree (or all sharing the same skill tree).
It CAN be done and has in several games, but the amount of resources to invest in it usually isn't worth trying to keep everybody happy.

[Absurdity]

That is unfortunately going to be the way with every class. They will never be able to get a playstyle or Job that is universally loved, no matter how much they rejig, buff or nerf them. There will always be someone who wants to heal, tank or poke things with a spear that dislikes what the game offers. If another game provides a more favourable experience then thats great, but it would be boring if ever MMO had the same style of gameplay. Constructive criticism should always be given yes, but sometimes a personal preference is a subjective matter.

That's exactly one of the problems we currently have though. They seem to be trying real hard to make every job appeal to everyone, making it worse in the process.

[True-to-Caesar]

That's exactly one of the problems we currently have though. They seem to be trying real hard to make every job appeal to everyone, making it worse in the process.

You can have classes/jobs with broader appeal without them being dumbed down.
Right now it’s dumbed down across the board for the 2min burst meta.