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  1. #31
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul View Post
    It’s been a while since the change and it’s definitely now the Aglaia raid that I get the most. Probably 5 times a week I’ll get that one. The last 2 I got were the 2nd & 3rd Nier raid for the 1st time, but it’s almost always Aglaia. I get Crystal Tower on the rare chance now. I got a totally opposite experience than the OP.
    Aglaia is the perfect example of why the problem with AR roulette isn't necessarily the frequency in which players get CT, and more to do with continuously getting content that just isn't fun to do because the bosses don't pose any kind of significant threat level, and ilv bloat will have players kill these bosses before things actually can get interesting. Players now defeat Byregot before he has a chance to execute his exaflares, Azyema goes down before her triangle mechanic and x3 copy arena burn, and Nald'Thal doesn't even make it past his scales of judgment. The hardest part of his fight comes after this.

    Not only have the devs not listened to their playerbase, they quite literally made the same mistake all over again with Myths of the Realm. I would rather get WoD than both Aglaia and Euphrosyne.

    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    You could say just skip the alliance raid roulette and just queue for the raid you want. The main reason for roulettes is to help out new players.
    No, it's not. And queueing for the raid you want is dismissive of the problem. Please stop parroting and learn to show empathy to your fellow players. Roulettes exist to help keep old content alive, and everyone benefits from them. New players and veterans both. Players typically don't have a specific instance in mind when using a roulette, and are happy when they get an encounter that is well designed and not a snorefest.
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  2. #32
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    Riamara Skye
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverQ View Post
    The ilevel Alliance raid fix did absolutely nothing from what I can tell. In the past 2-3 weeks of AR roulette, I've had Crystal Tower about 15 times, most of which were LotA. Only about 5 were non CT raids. I haven't gotten Nier raids a single time in that time span .

    At this point, I feel like just skipping the AR roulette because I'm so sick to death of CT raids, but then I miss out on the XP and rewards from it.

    They really need to fix this. I'm not sure how, maybe make all Alliance raid unlocks required to complete the MSQ? Or make it so the higher your level, the less likely you are to pull CT.
    At least you managed to resolve the situation on your own. You are light years ahead of most of the "people" that post here.
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  3. #33
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    Grimahed Darkovin
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by OliverQ View Post
    The ilevel Alliance raid fix did absolutely nothing from what I can tell. In the past 2-3 weeks of AR roulette, I've had Crystal Tower about 15 times, most of which were LotA. Only about 5 were non CT raids. I haven't gotten Nier raids a single time in that time span .

    At this point, I feel like just skipping the AR roulette because I'm so sick to death of CT raids, but then I miss out on the XP and rewards from it.

    They really need to fix this. I'm not sure how, maybe make all Alliance raid unlocks required to complete the MSQ? Or make it so the higher your level, the less likely you are to pull CT.
    I'm not really sure there's a definitive fix so long as they keep it a lvl 50 roulette. I don't think I'd want them to make it gated behind MSQ, either. It's already long enough even without every AR being required for new players.

    Maybe...they can implement something that will read if you have complete an X.0 patch (3.0, 4.0, etc) and upon reading that the player has completed said base expansion, their access to the roulette gets locked until they complete the alliance raid series for that expansion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    At least you managed to resolve the situation on your own. You are light years ahead of most of the "people" that post here.
    It's absolutely amazing you haven't been banned yet. You remind me of FireMage just more unhinged.
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  4. #34
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    Adam Brazenmutt
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    I just suck up the penalty, as for a fix, they should just make all the Alliance Raids mandatory. I don't know why they don't just do it that way.
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  5. #35
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    I just suck up the penalty, as for a fix, they should just make all the Alliance Raids mandatory. I don't know why they don't just do it that way.
    None of the others have anything to do with msq is probably why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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  7. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    At least you managed to resolve the situation on your own. You are light years ahead of most of the "people" that post here.
    The dehumanizing language on this one...
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  8. #37
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    Ghael Rehw-setlas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majatok View Post
    All roulettes have the issue that certain dungeons/raids come up more often than others. But it's most extreme with alliance raids. I often saw sprouts complain about waiting for hours and still not getting in ivalice/nier raids.

    The main purpose of roulette is to ensure that you can always get players no matter what content you are doing. The alliance roulette failed in that regard.

    So if we want to figure out if these changes were successful, we need to look at the queue times when you directly select specific alliance raids.

    Did the average queue time decrease compared to from before the changes?
    If yes than the changes did fix it.
    Anything not MSQ takes ages unless you're a Healer, and even then the minimum waiting time for some of the post SB optional content takes long compared to anything else. Yesterday I queued for Suzaku Normal as Healer during high activity period and, I'm not kidding, it took 23 minutes to find a group. Eden Refulgence took 40 minutes as a Tank during the weekend.

    There's two main reasons why we get CT raids often: it's MSQ required, and it's usually the only AR most people seem to be bothered to unlock. Only this week I've been in three groups with one to zero sprouts.

    Honestly I don't blame people who don't unlock stuff. The game does little to guide you towards said content and the rewards for doing it are just "the thrill of it" fire all the time invested in queues and doing their respective stories.

    This is only gonna be solved once they either make raids part of the story or give better rewards. The reward adjustment also did little as it's easier to run CT several times in auto pilot than Nier/Ivalice once in that time-frame.
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  9. #38
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    The only issue with that is then it becomes a problem for the group of people who already have been complaining the MSQ is too long.
    That's only an issue for people who haven't done any of the other AR's on the way to 90 (if they start from level 1 as of now). If SE did implement all AR's into the MSQ, then anyone boosting would automatically have every alliance raid from 50-80 unlocked. If implemented after the expansion comes out, then all Alliance Raids from 50-90 would be unlocked if players boost.
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  10. #39
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    Bunbun Thurm
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    That's only an issue for people who haven't done any of the other AR's on the way to 90 (if they start from level 1 as of now). If SE did implement all AR's into the MSQ, then anyone boosting would automatically have every alliance raid from 50-80 unlocked. If implemented after the expansion comes out, then all Alliance Raids from 50-90 would be unlocked if players boost.
    Sure, it's not a problem cuz you can just throw money at it. . . Alrighty then.

    I know for myself I've had them all unlocked forever but if I were to make a new char and go through the MSQ again, I would be pissed if they added an extra 10 hours (just a guess for the time) to the MSQ just to try to fix a roulette.
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  11. #40
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    Maybe ten hours if you don't skip the cutscenes. Probably 4-5ish hours if you do skip cutscenes. Hours may also vary depending on how good/bad your alliance is.

    Alternatively, they could just move the CT raids into MSQ Roulette and only have HW, StB, ShB, and (once available) DT in Alliance Raid Roulette.
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