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  1. #11
    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    I asked for this a lot and people always get grumpy whenever I do.
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  2. #12
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caro178 View Post
    Please do not "fix" this. We permanently brought life back to the edge of the universe and the song reflects that monumental change. It would be absurd to revert the song to its incomplete version - and yes, that's exactly what it is. The chilling reverb is symbolic of the dead and forgotten wasteland of Ultima Thule while the finished song represents the everlasting resurrection of the zone through the dynamis of the scions. Asking for this to be fixed is like asking for the Doman Enclave to visually revert to its original pre-developed state because you personally preferred the rundown houses for some reason. It is OK for our actions to have permanent, visible and in this case audible reflections on the game's environments.
    This is a very valid argument, and likely why the devs kept things the way they are. But hopefully you can also see the side of those who would still like to experience this track without having to venture into newgame+. Their are multiple musical compositions in the game that can only be experienced during certain points in the MSQ, or if they release the orchestrion scrolls (not as effective) for them. The Doman enclave, Vauthry's Eulmore, the radio tune in Garlemald, and pre final days Thavnair to name a few. These are still beautiful pieces of music in their own right, and make visiting these zones more enjoyable.

    It is entirely possible to have the music shift to these while exploring certain parts of the map very similar to when we enter the regions where tribe quests are given. It doesn't have to be a day/night thing. Try not to think in absolutes.
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  3. #13
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    Boblawblah's Avatar
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caro178 View Post
    Please do not "fix" this. We permanently brought life back to the edge of the universe and the song reflects that monumental change. It would be absurd to revert the song to its incomplete version - and yes, that's exactly what it is. The chilling reverb is symbolic of the dead and forgotten wasteland of Ultima Thule while the finished song represents the everlasting resurrection of the zone through the dynamis of the scions. Asking for this to be fixed is like asking for the Doman Enclave to visually revert to its original pre-developed state because you personally preferred the rundown houses for some reason. It is OK for our actions to have permanent, visible and in this case audible reflections on the game's environments.
    This is my view as well, although I think every song should have an orchestration.
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  4. #14
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    You know what would be better?

    Portable orchestrion. Customize both zone and battle music to your liking
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  5. #15
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    Caro Calise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    This is a very valid argument, and likely why the devs kept things the way they are. But hopefully you can also see the side of those who would still like to experience this track without having to venture into newgame+. Their are multiple musical compositions in the game that can only be experienced during certain points in the MSQ, or if they release the orchestrion scrolls (not as effective) for them. The Doman enclave, Vauthry's Eulmore, the radio tune in Garlemald, and pre final days Thavnair to name a few. These are still beautiful pieces of music in their own right, and make visiting these zones more enjoyable.

    It is entirely possible to have the music shift to these while exploring certain parts of the map very similar to when we enter the regions where tribe quests are given. It doesn't have to be a day/night thing. Try not to think in absolutes.
    I agree - the fact that there is no orchestration is totally inexcusable, although I'm unsure which version they would choose because there are a few states of the incomplete song. The one I see people ask for the most is just the original totally unaltered version that plays as soon as you step outside in Ultima Thule. They could just dump it in the gemstone trader shop and call it a day. Maybe it's on the backburner and will be done eventually.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    You know what would be better?

    Portable orchestrion. Customize both zone and battle music to your liking
    It’s called Youtube.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by EgilTheStressedMage View Post
    It’s called Youtube.
    Its called turning down the in-game bgm channel, put on a few tabs of extended music of your preference and then going back and try to find some more songs that play better situationally in what youre do-

    Brother, it be good if this was just an in-game feature so I wouldnt have to keep doing this
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  8. #18
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    Kayll Ava
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caro178 View Post
    Please do not "fix" this. We permanently brought life back to the edge of the universe and the song reflects that monumental change. It would be absurd to revert the song to its incomplete version - and yes, that's exactly what it is. The chilling reverb is symbolic of the dead and forgotten wasteland of Ultima Thule while the finished song represents the everlasting resurrection of the zone through the dynamis of the scions. Asking for this to be fixed is like asking for the Doman Enclave to visually revert to its original pre-developed state because you personally preferred the rundown houses for some reason. It is OK for our actions to have permanent, visible and in this case audible reflections on the game's environments.
    No one ever implied it was a "fix".
    The song itself is fine, and what it represents is also fine.
    But it makes a terrible background music, and makes you get sick of the song.
    I think it'd be fine if it didn't include the vocals personallly, a good compromise could be made of playing the original song at night, and Close in the Distance during day like others have suggested.

    But mainly I just miss Echoes in the Distance.
    I've been waiting for an orchestration roll of the song since I first entered the zone, I'm just trying to make some noise in hopes it is actually implemented since I feel once DT releases the chances of it actually happening will probably be near zero.
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    Last edited by kayll; 11-19-2023 at 05:31 AM.

  9. #19
    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    /bgm there FTFY
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  10. #20
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Quote Originally Posted by kayll View Post
    No one ever implied it was a "fix".

    But it makes a terrible background music, and makes you get sick of the song.
    You can't dismiss someone's objection with "no one ever implied it was a 'fix'" while also saying "it's terrible background music" and then "change it". You're straight up saying that it should be changed (your compromise IS a change) and Caro is saying "no, it's fine" and I agree with her.
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