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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    I would love to come to some kind of solution so that this can be put behind us, but that can't happen as long as people are focused on this mostly one-sided drama and not the issues that were made in the original post.
    gm could log in and issue warning about these artificially affected outdoor furniture items, maybe even move them down, if you claim the items use illegal coordinates.
    but until it happens, GMs either not care or are not allowed to care or intervene.

    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    Making excuses like "their decorations, their choice" only generates more distaste for the fact that only Square Enix is in a position to do something significant about it. Maybe I could have handled most of it better, but I think the end result would have been the same.
    I wonder if you made a giant burning swastika from Authentic Summer Bonfire outdoor furniture on your house plot, if the same people would jump in to defend you with their own "their decorations, their choice" argument.

    Not saying you should do it, but some refuse to see the forest because of the trees.
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  2. #72
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    Eloy Impia
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAJRIS View Post
    I wonder if you made a giant burning swastika from Authentic Summer Bonfire outdoor furniture on your house plot, if the same people would jump in to defend you with their own "their decorations, their choice" argument.

    Not saying you should do it, but some refuse to see the forest because of the trees.
    From SE's prohibited activities page:

    ■Harassment
    "Harassment" is speech and/or behavior that inflicts deep emotional distress on another person. It is an extremely serious violation. Where Square Enix determines that harassment has occurred, a penalty equal to or higher than a "Temporary Service Account Suspension" may be imposed.

    It is prohibited to do this anywhere an expression can be made, such as chat (including Quick Chat in PvP content, macros, and emotes), markers, comments, or titles. It is also a violation in cases where a player character name involves a term that could be considered harassment in any way. Additionally, when harassment involves a group of players, all corresponding players will be subject to penalties.

    Below is a non-exhaustive list of behavior that could constitute harassment in Final Fantasy XIV:

    ・Discriminatory expressions based on race/nationality/thinking/gender/sexual orientation/gender identity
    ・Discriminatory expressions about a state/religion/occupation/organization, etc.

    What you are describing would constitute a place "where expression can be made" and would be an altogether different issue than a bunch of floated towers.
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  3. #73
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    The thing is, which might sound a little hurtful, i don't believe they did what they do for the reasons one might think.

    Much like a similar topic regarding housing, people do things the way they do because others are not part of the equation.
    I am not native English speaking so i might Phrase this weirdly but they maybe probably just dont care about others at all, i too don't play and do the things i do ingame to appeal to others.
    I will raid and kick people i think are not living up to expectations, not because i wanna hurt them but because i value my time.

    I do the things i do with my houses because they are mine, and dont care what others think is etiquette or the right thing. In the flipside, i hate the gingerbread housing walls, but as long as i don't have to use them, my entire neighborhoods can be filled with them idc.

    What I'm trying to say is, your feelings are most likely not even considered by them with what they do. Or atleast, were because if i was in their position i would've probably also kept it up or made it worse for the "lulz".

    And if for some reason, square would actually cut the tower amount down to one or two per plot, you can be sure their placed stuff is grandfathered and they will keep it as it is for even more lulz.
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    Last edited by DerpSnake; 12-17-2023 at 03:18 AM.

  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerpSnake View Post
    The thing is, which might sound a little hurtful, i don't believe they did what they do for the reasons one thinks
    Could you elaborate a bit here? I'm not sure what this is referring to
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impia View Post
    Could you elaborate a bit here? I'm not sure what this is referring to
    ( me doofus hit sent prematurely. )
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    My major end goal is to just see my feedback about it reach Square Enix.
    If your goal was to see that your feedback reaches SE, I'm afraid you came to the wrong place. We've had evidence that they don't pay attention to the EN forums (don't know about the JP forums) thanks to some widely debated topics in the past that SE would turn around and say aren't problems for EN players.

    Anyway, if you want your feedback to get to SE try using the Support Desk Suggestion tool. You're not going to get any acknowledgement that your suggestion was received but it will be seen by someone employed by SE.

    Considering how SE pretty much ignored the complaints about the Shirogane Castle Walls when those were introduced in Stormblood (they block views worse than multiple HoH towers do), I highly doubt they're going to implement any changes just because furnishings might block another plot owner's view. You're better off getting a plot where no one else can block your view regardless of what furnishings are used.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 12-17-2023 at 04:10 AM.

  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    I appreciate you not immediately resorting to harrassment like the rest of them. My major end goal is to just see my feedback about it reach Square Enix.
    I mean...

    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    The only reason for this FC to put the towers up like that to begin with is to be narcissistic and draw attention to themselves.
    ...you kind of...

    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    The fact that they abused 3rd party tools to accomplish that malicious goal is the only reason I brought it up.
    ...seem to be using your posts...

    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    They can feign ignorance all they want, but actions speak louder than words, and having multiple towers being elevated like that by a single FC was definitely disruptive to one or more of the other FCs in the ward.
    ...to get in a bunch of digs...

    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    So what if their nearest neighbors don't find it weird or obnoxious?
    ...about your neighbours...

    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    The point is that anyone like myself that respects those around them when placing our decorations are going to see that and think "Who does that? Who is that starved for attention?"
    ...instead of just making what could otherwise be a reasonable request.

    Seriously, this post of yours I'm quoting is about 50% insults FROM you AT your neighbours.

    If your "main aim" was just to ask for HoH towers to be limited in number, you could just ask for that rather than going into how your neighbours are - as claimed by you in the quoted post - ignorance-feigning, obnoxious, disruptive, malicious, attention-starved narcissists.

    You crammed all those insults into ONE POST.

    I mean... c'mon.
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    Last edited by Tyintheron; 12-17-2023 at 10:10 AM.

  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    Wake up. 3rd party tools exist.
    One thing we can agree on. Why'd you delete it?

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    Last edited by WinglessSeraphim; 12-18-2023 at 02:56 AM.

  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinglessSeraphim View Post
    One thing we can agree on. Why'd you delete it?

    Boom lmao, looks like someone's trying to hide something; )

    Op really is a fan of "rules for thee but not for me"
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  10. #80
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    John Carterix
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    i got lots of cherry trees i dont see any 1 and have a little house i can buy 4 large worth of gil uses in in 10 xmas boxes 100 mil 3 cherrys 96 mil gil im a good seller have lots of gil
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