Locking a boss fight is not a good system

[RMA209]

I play roulette's as many do and try to enjoy the dungeons I get. This is a well made game and I enjoy it for the most part. When I join roulette's with some players they pull asap during a cutscenes or while players are still coming to the arena. I see this most out side of higher msq dungeons. Other players tell me that if your not in there in time to just teleport in. Why should I have to? I have to miss the start of the fight because of a old cs or because poor playing of a group got me killed? For example look at The Royal City of Rabanastre at the end when the final boss pop up there is a cutscene. I have timed it to be about a minute and 10 seconds. Why don't we have a way for people to watch this cutscene without missing the start of the fight? Why should they not get to see it during there first run? Locking out a player is not perfect but it was a more serious action the slowed down fast pulls. Some players, I find rude, say we have to watch all cutscenes in the inn. As that is what its for. As a long term player I don't know how what to say to that other then NO. Also with things like sprint and Peloton in dungeons we don't all go at the same speed. So if one player get there first and pulls really fast that is not helping either. Square Enix NEEDS to change something. Its a system that hurts more then it helps. Tho I can say that a change from the original system is a good idea. This system has led to more players rushing dungeons for a prize. What happened to playing for the game play? Someone who enjoys the fight not the loot?

FYI: The other day I brought up that pulling a boss early was rude during a run of Syrcus Tower on the final boss. They had locked out 4 or 5 players. The other healer got mad at me and used the rescue action on me. I was pulled into 4 aoe at once. We know as a sch I was doomed.

Yes this is a hot topic for some people, but there has got to be a better answer.

[Dzian]

FYI: The other day I brought up that pulling a boss early was rude during a run of Syrcus Tower on the final boss. They had locked out 4 or 5 players. The other healer got mad at me and used the rescue action on me. I was pulled into 4 aoe at once. We know as a sch I was doomed.

Yes this is a hot topic for some people, but there has got to be a better answer.

Devils advocate.

One might say its equally as rude if not more so to not get to the arena at the same time as everyone else.. If 19 of the 24 people made it in time why didn't the other 5???

It's generally considered rude to be late after all.

The issue here is for all the content XIV has it also has none. Which is why players are doing roulette of years old raids and content on a daily basis and why they generally want to be in and out as fast as possible.

I get locked out from time to time and I mostly attribute it to me being slow rather than someone pulling early. Because as above if 20-23 other people were there in time. Then why wasn't I?

[RMA209]

How about a person watching the cs like its day 1. Don't they deserve a shot at the story? This is a story based game.

[Bright-Flower]

Didn't they add a system so that you can teleport into the boss arena if you get locked out? (At least at first, ogviously you can't die, teleport to entrance and then port back into the fight.

[RMA209]

Yes they did. Its other players that run in as fast as they can using things like sprint, Peloton and En Avant. Then pull asap. What if a player stops for a second to look at the loot? How about a cs in the story. Most of the cs people pull on are short like my Royal City example. Why should a person a penalized for being a tad slow? Plus in many of the dungeons prime people stopped for players. Why not now?

[DrWho2010]

sorry to say if you're a newer player playing old content it's gonna happen. only way to not get this is to do stuff when it's current.

[Raldo]

So, you're saying that if you're in a cutscene when your 30-seconds-until-automatically-ported-into-arena timer is up, you don't get ported into the arena?

I was under the impression that you'd still get ported into the arena anyway. Is that not the case?

[Allooutrick]

I'm in favor of something changing. I don't play this game often enough to know every fight inside and out. As such, when a fight begins and I'm catching up for whatever reason, I end up needing to take even more time to adjust to everything that's going on. It really throws off my groove in a fight. Not to mention it sucks to have to be with people for the entire run doing this or eat that 30 minute penalty. I don't find it fun to be put in that position.

Furthermore what about new players? Is this really what we should be doing? Are people new to the game going to be impressed and want to stick around? Are they going to enjoy other players trying to force them through content as fast as possible or get left behind?

[HyoMinPark]

How about a person watching the cs like its day 1. Don't they deserve a shot at the story? This is a story based game.

This is a strawman. For things like 24-mans, a lot of players will be in the cutscene on Day 1. You can’t apply this same logic to a 24-man after it’s been out for a while and most have already seen its story.

So, you're saying that if you're in a cutscene when your 30-seconds-until-automatically-ported-into-arena timer is up, you don't get ported into the arena?

I was under the impression that you'd still get ported into the arena anyway. Is that not the case?

You do. At least, I’d wager so from seeing those who do watch the cutscenes zoning into the fight well after it’s been sealed.

[Gula]

It's generally considered rude to be late after all.

Imagine showing up to the ballet recital 5 minutes in while everyone else is seated and quietly watching.