Third-party Tools Can Negatively Affect Players Not Using Them

[PredatoryCatgirl]

you can tell from literally any gear in the game that most of it is designed with femra and femqote in mind

Right...that's why half the headgear in this game made after Stormblood makes my ears disappear.

[HikariKurosawa]

I'm going to blow your mind! they can just cut earholes into the hat.

Even if this ever becomes a feature in the game, it's such a whataboutism you're trying to pull here that wouldn't even make sense most of the time. Most helms if you cut earholes into them, the ear is still going to be halfway in the helm which would both look and feel stupid for the viera. Hrothgar helms just don't make sense in most cases, when they do make sense they work as is.

It is part of the problem with cosmetic modding that people are doing this, but we're talking the smallest part of the problem. You act like it's not 0.00001% of modders that do it for helms on hrothgar/viera alone. Most of you are making insane changes to the aesthetic of the game and completely avoiding any reason to engage in the game world for the purposes of appearances. Most are using it to avoid to cash shop even if there are a small amount that use mods that are tied to cash shop purchases that solely exist as a whataboutism to make modding seem less harmful than it is.

It's not good, it will never be good. With AI coming into prevalence, you're not going to get away with it for very long. I'll tell you how anti-cheat could and will easily work without intruding on our privacy at all too: 1) game developers get an AI system that scans the internet for ffxiv related cheats and compiles a database, 2) anti-cheat references the database while you are playing the game, 3) computers detected using any program on the list are denied access to the game connection. 4) have a staff that oversees the database and makes sure it is only adding tools or files that actually mod the game.

That's just one way of doing it, and there are probably way smarter more efficient ways of doing it. This game is on a decline because of cheaters and square enix has to step in sooner or later before the game dies. If the game dies due to cheating, then it's all the same if there was no way of modding the game. It's like you selfish people would rather not play the game at all if you can't have your pathetic mods in it. So entitled that you should literally just be banned.

[Mosha]

It is part of the problem with cosmetic modding that people are doing this, but we're talking the smallest part of the problem. You act like it's not 0.00001% of modders that do it for helms on hrothgar/viera alone. Most of you are making insane changes to the aesthetic of the game and completely avoiding any reason to engage in the game world for the purposes of appearances. Most are using it to avoid to cash shop even if there are a small amount that use mods that are tied to cash shop purchases that solely exist as a whataboutism to make modding seem less harmful than it is.

yeah, that's fundamentally wrong lots of mods are tied to cash shop items and people don't use mods to avoid paying in the cash shop.

It's not good, it will never be good. With AI coming into prevalence, you're not going to get away with it for very long. I'll tell you how anti-cheat could and will easily work without intruding on our privacy at all too: 1) game developers get an AI system that scans the internet for ffxiv related cheats and compiles a database, 2) anti-cheat references the database while you are playing the game, 3) computers detected using any program on the list are denied access to the game connection. 4) have a staff that oversees the database and makes sure it is only adding tools or files that actually mod the game.

If it's detecting programs on a PC it's violating that person's privacy its invasive and YoshiP has been very clear that those types of anti-cheats are a no-go.

[HikariKurosawa]

yeah, that's fundamentally wrong lots of mods are tied to cash shop items and people don't use mods to avoid paying in the cash shop.


If it's detecting programs on a PC it's violating that person's privacy its invasive and YoshiP has been very clear that those types of anti-cheats are a no-go.

1) No, the vast majority of mods have no tie to cash shop items.

2) YoshiP would rather go back on his word than let the game die. You say I lack nuance, yet look who is talking lol. Detecting programs that are only related to ffxiv cheating =/= a privacy violation. You're just mad because I pointed out a way that they could detect cheats without being problematic.

[Visanis]

2) YoshiP would rather go back on his word than let the game die. You say I lack nuance, yet look who is talking lol. Detecting programs that are only related to ffxiv cheating =/= a privacy violation. You're just mad because I pointed out a way that they could detect cheats without being problematic.

Are you trolling at this point or legit just that stupid?

[HikariKurosawa]

Are you trolling at this point or legit just that stupid?

????? Tell me you abuse third party tools without telling me you do.

[Visanis]

????? Tell me you abuse third party tools without telling me you do.

Imagine thinking that anyone that disagrees with you or thinks that you're being a clown is a modder.

What a sad, paranoid life you must live.

[PredatoryCatgirl]

If it's detecting programs on a PC it's violating that person's privacy its invasive and YoshiP has been very clear that those types of anti-cheats are a no-go.

What I don't think people understand is the cultural and legal issue this causes. Japan has lots of games like this and no one cares. In the US, its basically dooming your game to include this, as the majority of gamers will drop you if you have a DRM that actually interferes with their computer. In Europe, its actually illegal in some countries, and where its not the attitude is largely the same as the US.

Basically including PC scanning would make this a JP only game, which would absolutely gut their bottom line. Yoshi-P is many things. Stupid isn't one of them.

[HikariKurosawa]

What I don't think people understand is the cultural and legal issue this causes. Japan has lots of games like this and no one cares. In the US, its basically dooming your game to include this, as the majority of gamers will drop you if you have a DRM that actually interferes with their computer. In Europe, its actually illegal in some countries, and where its not the attitude is largely the same as the US.

Basically including PC scanning would make this a JP only game, which would absolutely gut their bottom line. Yoshi-P is many things. Stupid isn't one of them.

Valorant says hello, one of the most popular games in the entire industry and it has an extreme anti-cheat that is also extremely effective.

Times are changing, people are less tolerant for cheating and you're joking if you think your data isn't already completely monitored.

[PredatoryCatgirl]

Valorant says hello, one of the most popular games in the entire industry and it has an extreme anti-cheat that is also extremely effective.

Times are changing, people are less tolerant for cheating and you're joking if you think your data isn't already completely monitored.

Oh look, you found one. That single example totally isn't an outlier that would get ignored in any statistical analysis.

Its also not an MMO, so different type of player, even assuming you are correct. The entire game is PVP, meaning anti cheat is a lot more important there.