Third-party Tools Can Negatively Affect Players Not Using Them

[ZiraZ]

Don't ask me, OP is the one who mentioned it in their post! I'm just responding to it ^^

Yeah well, prog point liars are far lower than even the most egregious 3rd party users in my book.
The same thing has happened in every MMO since the dawn of time, if the devs don't give the players the tools, the players will create them for themselves.
Want people to stop asking for logs for very difficult massive time sink content? Add prog point checkpoints by phase for PF recruitment or the log asking will continue.

[Dirwen]

I'm tired of these cheaters always trying to justify their cheating saying it has no impact on others when it does. They have an overwhelming advantage over console players and those that don't use cheats.

Cheaters does have an impact so many times I lose queue in roulette cause these cheaters can see what dungeon/trial is popping with their cheats so they can withdraw. Making me wait in queue longer.

These cheaters are just as bad as rmt if not worse. Cheaters also cry the loudest saying there is no content or stuff is too easy yet they can't do anything without cheating.

[LilFlowers]

I'm tired of these cheaters always trying to justify their cheating saying it has no impact on others when it does. They have an overwhelming advantage over console players and those that don't use cheats.

Cheaters does have an impact so many times I lose queue in roulette cause these cheaters can see what dungeon/trial is popping with their cheats so they can withdraw. Making me wait in queue longer.

These cheaters are just as bad as rmt if not worse. Cheaters also cry the loudest saying there is no content or stuff is too easy yet they can't do anything without cheating.

Imagine doing mentor roulette and withdrawing because you know its gonna be an old level synced Ex lmao just another reason to take that achievement and the people who already got the title/mount less seriously.

[Boblawblah]

Imagine doing mentor roulette and withdrawing because you know its gonna be an old level synced Ex lmao just another reason to take that achievement and the people who already got the title/mount less seriously.

Serious question, does anyone take any titles seriously? I don't think I've had titles turned on in years.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Serious question, does anyone take any titles seriously? I don't think I've had titles turned on in years.

The only titles that legit scares me are mahjong, some gold saucers, 20k accursed hoards, treasure dungeons, some PvP titles, and FSH titles.

[Absurdity]

The only titles that legit scares me are mahjong, some gold saucers, 20k accursed hoards, treasure dungeons, some PvP titles, and FSH titles.

Thief maps especially are just going to drive you insane. Have fun reaching the end of a dungeon 20 times where every floor has a 66% chance of kicking you out.

[AzhreiVahlok]

I turned off seeing them. I could care less and it's less text all over my screen.

Edit: I didn't hit quote on some of these..... i was replying to someone who mentioned achievements are kinda pointless

[ZiraZ]

Imagine doing mentor roulette and withdrawing because you know its gonna be an old level synced Ex lmao just another reason to take that achievement and the people who already got the title/mount less seriously.

This is yet again another case of SE causing the problem by putting a unique mount as the reward.
At the end of the day no mentor owes anyone anything, and cheats or not they are gonna leave the duties they don't want to do anyways.
I learned quick to insta leave any SOSEX mentors because it's simply not doable with fresh sprouts in a single lockout, I'm just not wasting my time, I tried a few times but I have a limit.
Also in the entirety of the time spent getting the 2k achiv I never felt like people were leaving the queue at alarming or suspicious rates, so as far as I experienced this was never an issue on my region, mentors would leave AFTER they loaded in and realized it was gonna be a shitshow.

[Thurmnmurmn]

Imagine doing mentor roulette and withdrawing because you know its gonna be an old level synced Ex lmao just another reason to take that achievement and the people who already got the title/mount less seriously.

By your logic you should apply this kind of thinking to everyone in the game. There's bad apples in every aspect of the game so clearly you just shouldn't take anyone seriously.

You don't notice good mentors because most the time they do their job and that's it. Only on very rare occasions do you actually have to do any actual mentoring while doing the mentor roulette. However it's super easy to remember a bad mentor or mentors leaving. Heck a ton of people even assume someone leaving is a mentor without ever actually even knowing.

And you can just say the mount. No one is actually using those lame mentor titles XD
Mentor of Mentors is just asking to get made fun of.

This is yet again another case of SE causing the problem by putting a unique mount as the reward.
At the end of the day no mentor owes anyone anything, and cheats or not they are gonna leave the duties they don't want to do anyways.
I learned quick to insta leave any SOSEX mentors because it's simply not doable with fresh sprouts in a single lockout, I'm just not wasting my time, I tried a few times but I have a limit.
Also in the entirety of the time spent getting the 2k achiv I never felt like people were leaving the queue at alarming or suspicious rates, so as far as I experienced this was never an issue on my region, mentors would leave AFTER they loaded in and realized it was gonna be a shitshow.

Agreed. It really didn't happen all that often.

The only titles that legit scares me are mahjong, some gold saucers, 20k accursed hoards, treasure dungeons, some PvP titles, and FSH titles.

Flexes with "Big Fish" or "High Roller"
Humble/not so humble

[TabrisOmbrelame]

You don't notice good mentors because most the time they do their job and that's it. Only on very rare occasions do you actually have to do any actual mentoring while doing the mentor roulette. However it's super easy to remember a bad mentor or mentors leaving. Heck a ton of people even assume someone leaving is a mentor without ever actually even knowing.

As a Mentor, I agree with this, you have no idea how many mentor DC on purpose just to be kicked 5 minute later in order to avoid the 30 minute penalty.

I reported a really good amount of those player, abusing the mecanics of the game on purpose (Strangely, those mentor don't have ANY problem at all when they are in content that are NOT Extreme, but they always got DC when they spawn in one... Don't tell me it's a coincidence, I won't believe you).

I can't say if they were all banned, but some of them definitely were, cause they just disappeared not long after, never to be seen again.