Third-party Tools Can Negatively Affect Players Not Using Them

[Frost1800]

This is incorrect.

My dude, I can guarantee you installing Cactbot is not the PF standard. SE might come off as blind, deaf, and dumb a lot of the time, but they know more about what goes on than people think. And that? That would get their attention.

It is no longer PF standard right now, but it was when I progged it on my DC. I think there was a transition from what I mentioned to “Allagan Melon”, but that happened after I was done with UwU.

Prog logs are going to be a thing for any sort of hardcore raiding group/static so ultimately if you want to avoid future issues I would get someone to log you and save the link somewhere for easy access. The people advertising for those groups want proof that you're not going to be deadweight since everyone involved is most likely going to be a high-end raider so they have their own expectations for how quick prog should be.

You can avoid this though by seeking more casual/midcore groups for the content but that obviously also comes with its own set of drawbacks (odds are you'll have a longer prog time, for example). It's ultimately up to whoever is running the group to set their own rules for how they want to filter people so you should figure out which way is most comfortable for you.

Another alternative is to form your own group and make it clear that you want no plugin usage by any of your members when interviewing people or try to form a console-only static to completely nuke out the potential of it occurring.

The blunt truth is that plugin usage isn't going to go away as long as Yoshi turns a blind eye to it outside of World 1st issues occurring, so it would probably be in your best interest to adjust to them existing however you can or avoid groups that use them at all (which you can find out by asking when being interviewed).

Regarding having someone else log for me, I found that can be a hard ask in game.
Regarding finding groups that accommodate no add-on usage, I was lucky to be able to find such a group for ToP, and I certainly hope my luck continues. However, I do worry about what if some issue arise during prog, and it can be hard to find people mid-prog.
Thank you for your advice.