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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Thought so yeah, so you got no evidence and just talk nonsense

    good talk bud ! Was a good attempt on your end at least
    All of mare is going to be non-functional after the graphical overhaul, that's a given. There is a high likelihood square enix will make it impossible for addon developers to access the assets too. You yourself said that it will be "2-3 months" before mare works again. That's optimistic but I doubt it will ever work again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    All of mare is going to be non-functional after the graphical overhaul, that's a given. There is a high likelihood square enix will make it impossible for addon developers to access the assets too. You yourself said that it will be "2-3 months" before mare works again. That's optimistic but I doubt it will ever work again.
    You are on some massive copium and its actually comedy.

    But please, do keep thinking that it'll all be gone with the graphical overhaul, you are in for a big surprise when it comes back.

    Also 2-3 months was for mods in general, not only that one, and it was a rough estimate, could be a bit more or less I dont know, but it will 100% work again, stop dreaming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    You are on some massive copium and its actually comedy.

    But please, do keep thinking that it'll all be gone with the graphical overhaul, you are in for a big surprise when it comes back.

    Also 2-3 months was for mods in general, not only that one, and it was a rough estimate, could be a bit more or less I dont know, but it will 100% work again, stop dreaming.
    Big surprise? Mare doesn't mean anything to me. Your characters are unmaintained you look like npcs outside of your third party fantasy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    So pathetic rofl. You don't need to provide evidence for speculation. Get a grip on reality. You gotta think beyond the surface for once.

    Also look at your signature. You're on break until 7.0. You are not the demographic that is keeping this game profitable.

    There were a little over 9000 players in the mare statistic too. That's nothing in the grand scheme of the game.
    Subscribers are not the primary generator

    Cash shops and mobile investments are how these companies make their money

    Don’t think for a second that sub count comes close to these income methods
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    Subscribers are not the primary generator

    Cash shops and mobile investments are how these companies make their money

    Don’t think for a second that sub count comes close to these income methods
    For XIV I think subs are still a sizeable amount of income, even if not it is at least a stable and predictable amount of regular cash flow.
    The cash shop is probably a lot more volatile, sure you have whales that just buy anything you serve them but most people aren't buying all the junk they sometimes throw on the shop...like consumable housing items for 5 bucks.

    So the income from the cash shop can swing wildly depending on whether or not they put something popular on the store this month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    Subscribers are not the primary generator

    Cash shops and mobile investments are how these companies make their money

    Don’t think for a second that sub count comes close to these income methods
    "Lots of cosmetic addons are based on cash shop items"

    Most cosmetic addon users do not buy cash shop items. Why would they when they can just get a free appearance that "looks way better than anything in game"
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    "Lots of cosmetic addons are based on cash shop items"

    Most cosmetic addon users do not buy cash shop items. Why would they when they can just get a free appearance that "looks way better than anything in game"
    That is a blatent lie that you can’t source but anecdotally most of the modbeasts I know still buy a LOT from the cash shop
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    That is a blatent lie that you can’t source but anecdotally most of the modbeasts I know still buy a LOT from the cash shop
    A friend of mine is a "don't ask me what I spent on the optional items" person, while also being like "I can tell a mile away they are using mods, because they are wearing that EXACT shirt" person.

    Using add-on/plugins/mods /= not buying from the optional item store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    "Lots of cosmetic addons are based on cash shop items"

    Most cosmetic addon users do not buy cash shop items. Why would they when they can just get a free appearance that "looks way better than anything in game"
    Some quick research tells you otherwise.

    Mods can't just add new things to the game, they can only visually replace existing ones. Most mod users, as with any other software, have so little knowledge of how this works that they can't choose the item to replace themselves, so if the thing that "looks way better than anything in game" requires them to buy a mogstation outfit they will just do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    Subscribers are not the primary generator

    Cash shops and mobile investments are how these companies make their money

    Don’t think for a second that sub count comes close to these income methods
    Fun fact time, in Q1 of 2023, FFXIV Subs accounted for more revenue for Square Enix than their other titles, making a total of 27.3 Billion Yen in just the first quarter of the fiscal year.

    Sadly they don't have any data on just the optional items, however the slide does state that it is only counting paying subscriber numbers:
    Source (First time doing a Hyperlink in BBC in years, hopefully, this works)

    Personally, I am curious as to the amount of revenue generated by optional items.
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