Plot Locking for Blacklisted Players

[Stormpeaks]

Whats that thing you always say? Let them play how they want, it doesn't effect you? Or "it's not against the tos"



Also, if you are doing something to get blacklisted, maybe.. Don't do that?



lol

Imagine missing the point that badly

Player X has their friend Y at their venue

Player Y doesnt like you

Player Y tells X to blacklist you out of the venue even if you havent done anything

You are unable to access X's venue for no reason at all.

But hey, good on you for trying at least

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Imagine missing the point that badly

Player X has their friend Y at their venue

Player Y doesnt like you

Player Y tells X to blacklist you out of the venue even if you havent done anything

You are unable to access X's venue for no reason at all.

But hey, good on you for trying at least

OK? They are friends. Find another venue. It's not against the tos.


Why are you against preventing people who don't like you from entering their venues?



You don't have a right to access them lol. Don't tell people how to enjoy the game.

[TaleraRistain]

Imagine missing the point that badly

Player X has their friend Y at their venue

Player Y doesnt like you

Player Y tells X to blacklist you out of the venue even if you havent done anything

You are unable to access X's venue for no reason at all.

But hey, good on you for trying at least

You're treating it like someone has an inherent right to be at the venue just because it exists. They don't. Would it be crappy if someone behaved like this? Yes. But it's their plot and they should be able to make decisions about who can be there based on whatever parameters they want. Others can still call them out on it if they feel they're being unfair.

[Remolia]

Imagine missing the point that badly

Player X has their friend Y at their venue

Player Y doesnt like you

Player Y tells X to blacklist you out of the venue even if you havent done anything

You are unable to access X's venue for no reason at all.

But hey, good on you for trying at least

If X complies to Y requests, u probably better not interact and waste any more time on player X and their plot.

[NekoMataMata]

Imagine missing the point that badly

Player X has their friend Y at their venue

Player Y doesnt like you

Player Y tells X to blacklist you out of the venue even if you havent done anything

You are unable to access X's venue for no reason at all.

But hey, good on you for trying at least

As unfair as that could be, it doesn't matter.

If someone wants to kick you out of their community, out of their venue, out of their home, then they should be able to. If it's not an issue of stalking or misbehavior then it's something you need to bring up with your friends or tell others about. A venue that randomly chooses to kick people out will eventually get a bad reputation for it. If someone in your friend/FC does it to spite you then that's your cue to talk to others about it or leave that group.

This is such an important feature for dealing with stalking and harassment. Childish interpersonal issues aren't enough of a reason not to add it.

[SeverianLyonesse]

Once again, if X venue owner has their friend in the venue and they're biased, they can just ban anyone from getting in even if the person hasnt done anything

it would be a disaster, so big no from me

This is such a dumb hypothetical. Not a single player in this game is entitled to be on "enter my private house" good terms with every other player.

Doesn't matter if some petty stuff happens or if their blocking you was misdirected. If you can't get over not being able to go into a single venue out of thousands, or otherwise lack the social grace to clear up an impersonal mistake, why should the rest of the game cater to that?

I think it is far more important that players be given tools to protect their private spaces from trolls than to console the feelings of anyone as insecure as the kind of person you suggest exists.

[Mayhemmer]

Sounds like a weird non-issue to have, but ok.

[Avoidy]

The blacklist in this game is nearly worthless, OP. Let's say you added me for a week, but realized I was a crazy person after a few days. You unadd me and blacklist me. Despite this, I'd still be able to:
a) run into you in random dutyfinder content
b) join partyfinder groups that you happened to be in as well (but not ones that you created)
c) approach you in town and speak to you in /say
d) use the player search function to find your location, and then go to that location and bother you
e) assuming we were on each others friends lists before you blacklisted me, I could simply not remove you from mine and still know when you were online, which server/dc you were on, and your location
f) manually approach your home (I can no longer teleport to it if you removed me from your friends list, but let's say I'm a capable stalker and simply committed the address to memory) and dance in the front yard while harassing you in /say
g) enter your home (assuming you don't lock it) and talk to you or the people inside even if you don't want me there. There is no selective lock function, so locking your door to me means locking your door to everyone else in the game btw
h) stay in your home for as long as I like; you have no way to remove me short of just asking and hoping I comply, and then reporting and hoping a GM removes me (LOL)
i) if you try to leave the server or change your name, I can simply access your lodestone, which does not change, and find your new identity that way. Then the fun game starts all over again!

The lesson here is ... don't add people to your friends lists, I guess. Great system from CBU3! Over 10 years and they haven't improved it at all! Maplestory came out in like 2003 or something and had a buddy system that at least removed on both ends when 1 person requested it. But for some reason, this game cannot because it might hurt people's feelings or something. What a wonderful game! What a great community!
Blacklist should be expanded. Guys working in their basements without a salary have created custom voidlists that erase a player's presence from visibility. SE has no excuse; they just don't care.

[WantlessYoYo]

The blacklist in this game is nearly worthless, OP. Let's say you added me for a week, but realized I was a crazy person after a few days. You unadd me and blacklist me. Despite this, I'd still be able to:
a) run into you in random dutyfinder content
b) join partyfinder groups that you happened to be in as well (but not ones that you created)
c) approach you in town and speak to you in /say
d) use the player search function to find your location, and then go to that location and bother you
e) assuming we were on each others friends lists before you blacklisted me, I could simply not remove you from mine and still know when you were online, which server/dc you were on, and your location
f) manually approach your home (I can no longer teleport to it if you removed me from your friends list, but let's say I'm a capable stalker and simply committed the address to memory) and dance in the front yard while harassing you in /say
g) enter your home (assuming you don't lock it) and talk to you or the people inside even if you don't want me there. There is no selective lock function, so locking your door to me means locking your door to everyone else in the game btw
h) stay in your home for as long as I like; you have no way to remove me short of just asking and hoping I comply, and then reporting and hoping a GM removes me (LOL)
i) if you try to leave the server or change your name, I can simply access your lodestone, which does not change, and find your new identity that way. Then the fun game starts all over again!

The lesson here is ... don't add people to your friends lists, I guess. Great system from CBU3! Over 10 years and they haven't improved it at all! Maplestory came out in like 2003 or something and had a buddy system that at least removed on both ends when 1 person requested it. But for some reason, this game cannot because it might hurt people's feelings or something. What a wonderful game! What a great community!
Blacklist should be expanded. Guys working in their basements without a salary have created custom voidlists that erase a player's presence from visibility. SE has no excuse; they just don't care.

Man is so freaking terrifying to think of people like this that truly exists
How sad your life would have to be to reach to these extremes yet even more having all these tools available for you to do so

[Thurmnmurmn]

If they add that, they should make it so you can choose a bouncer for your plot. Then the bouncer doesn't let blacklisted people in.

By that logic storms, that would mean you would be against forming parties/FC's/cwls/ls as well. The same bias can happen. The only difference is there's someones plot involved (which is their property anyways).