How would you solve the boring "damage rotation" of the healers?

[Renathras]

Yes, compared to glare spam, warrior's rotation is more effort. This question can not be genuine lmao.

Well, you aren't the person I asked, but, let's roll with it:

Glare spam isn't WHM's rotation. WHM's rotation is Dia refreshing as close as practicable to duration, consuming 3 Lilies per minute, 1 Misery per minute, using Assize on CD, placing Assize and Misery into burst windows as they come up, and aligning Presence of Mind with party burst.

But that wasn't the question, either.

My question is, is WAR or PLD's rotation "effort" or "no effort"? What makes it "effort"?

And I'm not trying to be obtuse here. Let's drill down to it. People tend to throw out slogans and general statements a lot that fizzle when nailed down. Let's take these gaseous things and give them actual form so they can actually be discussed.

From a general perspective, PLD's rotation can be summarized as:

Use Fight or Flight then Requiescat on CD. Use Circle of Scorn and Expaciation on CD. Use Goring Blade and Confetior x4 on CD. Do NOT use Intervene on CD, stock 2 of them for use under Fight or Flight. Outside of that, press 1-2-3 at the start of the fight, then the rest of the fight, use 1-2-4-4-4-5-3. If in burst, use -5 after the Confetior combo before rejoining your filler rotation, already in progress. There's nothing here to upkeep at all, and everything else is a big "use on CD". There are 6 buttons that you use on CD, but you use them all together...on CD. There's no advanced thinking in place. The only things that require a modicum of thought are to try and put both Intervenes under FoF (unless you need to use them outside of that for gap closing) and if you're coming up on your burst window, to try and get a Holy Might HS into it...which is ridiculously easy. (There's a reason I question people that insist WAR is still the easiest Tank in terms of its DPS rotation since PLD has effectively nothing to optimize that has any difficulty and no plate juggling at all.)

WAR's pattern is a Melee's version of Healer's. There's a 1-2- combo that feeds into either a standard damage -3 or an upkeep buff -4. The upkeep buff is more flexible and easier to manage than any Healers' DoT, though, since it can stack to 60 and is tracked on your character making it easier to both track and maintain. Other than that, you have Upheaval on CD, Inner Release on CD, Primal Rend on CD, Onslaught x3 under Inner Release, Fell Cleave spam under Inner Release, Infuriate under Inner Release (not overcapping gauge), and...uh...that's kind of it. The filler phase is the 1-2-3/-4 that is more or less identical to how healers play just trading cast time "difficulty" for "can you count to 3?" difficulty, and continuing the "Upheaval on CD" + "Don't overcap Infuriate/gauge" thing.

If Healers are a 1, PLD would be a 2 and WAR would be a 2.5. Surely the line between "no effort" and "effort" isn't going from a 1 to a 2?

SMN, a DPS Job, has no upkeep buffs OR gauges. The only form of actual optimization is holding your 2x Festers at the 1 min mark for your 2 min burst window. Otherwise, you're either going with a standard crit build where you hit Searing Light, Summon, weave all of 5 oGCDs in there while pressing an instant cast ability, then go into your Primals which are mostly instant casts, Swiftcast Garuda, and Ifrit being the only thing that requires a modicum of thought, then a Ruin 3 before repeating the cycle. If you go spell speed, you don't even align your Summons into buffs, you just use them on CD and Searing Light on CD.

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I didn't "compare to glare spam, warrior's rotation".

I asked of WAR's rotation is "effort" or "no effort".

This is, again, a case of someone lying about what I said/asked. Outright.

Dang you guys went in on me hard. Sheesh it was just a suggestion. Wow you guys can get really mean here. It’s cool if it’s not something you want but I thought forums was just a place where you can express yourself positively and not incur just a rash of exasperated people.

It was just an idea… just like allot of people have. It’s not a right or wrong answer. Didn’t have to be so discourteous and impolite.

Welcome to my world, friend.

For what it's worth, I didn't think your idea was bad.

My only concern with the combo breaking is if people might greed and get people killed. It happens now...but that might make even more incentive. But you could do like PLD where Clemency doesn't break the combo and that would work?