How would you solve the boring "damage rotation" of the healers?

[mallleable]

Any new dps rotation buttons that a healer could get should be entirely new buttons if the goal is to break up the pace of pressing the same one button over, and over again. However, most healer hotbars are already pretty loaded, and are at risk of bloat. So which healing buttons would everyone be willing to either cut or consolidate to make room for extra dps buttons?

[ty_taurus]

Any new dps rotation buttons that a healer could get should be entirely new buttons if the goal is to break up the pace of pressing the same one button over, and over again. However, most healer hotbars are already pretty loaded, and are at risk of bloat. So which healing buttons would everyone be willing to either cut or consolidate to make room for extra dps buttons?

On Sage:

- Pepsis
- Krasis
- Soteria
- Physis II
- Druochole
- Ixochole
- Kerachole
- Taurochole

I'd also suggest removing Haima and Panhaima as separate cooldowns and replace the animations and effects of Eukrasian Diagnosis and Prognosis with the layered barrier effects of Haima and Panhaima. But these do require expanding on Kardia and adding attacks that have more varied Kardia effects. I really just want to see Aethergall purged and replaced with something actually unique and on brand with Sage.

[Sebazy]

Any new dps rotation buttons that a healer could get should be entirely new buttons if the goal is to break up the pace of pressing the same one button over, and over again. However, most healer hotbars are already pretty loaded, and are at risk of bloat. So which healing buttons would everyone be willing to either cut or consolidate to make room for extra dps buttons?

Most healers have a few buttons that could at least be consolidated if not outright removed, eg:

Cure 1: Have it evolve into Afflatus Solace, if you try to cast it without a Lily in the bank, it casts regular Cure 1 instead. Or alternatively have it upgrade into Esuna.
Medica 1: Same deal with Rapture
Fey Blessing: Another one that's a bit of a relic and ripe to be replaced or reworked into something more interesting.
You could extend this to the fairy gauge and aether flow systems overall. At this stage they barely feel like they warrant the keys they take up, especially compared to what they once were.

The list goes on but I think that's enough examples to keep things concise? EW healers are ripe and ready for a pruning IMO, fewer abilities on shorter more punchy cooldowns is the way to go.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

[…]So which healing buttons would everyone be willing to either cut or consolidate to make room for extra dps buttons?

In a world where I get to think my own version of SCH, I would at least get rid of:
- Protraction
- Fey Blessing or Indomitability (Pick one)
- Fey Union
- Possibly Sacred Soil

Of course this would require some adjustment on other part of the kit, such as adding Selene back (not the haste), Energy Drains, Aetherflow, making Dissipation an actual recovery button than just Spreadlo buffer and ‘extra broil’ while also more frequently interact-able than just once every 3m, & sticking some refunds onto their GCD heals. Remind me again that I have to revisit my own outdated file.

[TheDustyOne]

Personally, I'd be fine with gutting nearly all of the oGCDs outside a couple per healer. I'd then put more interesting effects into the GCD heals, both to make their healing more interesting, but also to feed back into their damage kits in similar vein to Misery currently, ideally timed in some way so as to prevent people blindly spamming heals and getting rewarded for it. The new attacks would break up the filler spam, but also the more frequent GCD heals means that it breaks it up further and can meaningfully interact with that damage kit (like having Cure proc a powerful attack, Adloquium gives a stack of something to spend, Benefic unlocks a damage buff, etc.).

[ForsakenRoe]

Honestly to an extent, the whole level 86 set is a bit 'bloaty'. Did we really 'need' Aquaveil, Protraction, Exaltation and Krasis (ok Krasis gets a bit of a pass cos SGE is new)? I don't really recall any time in SHB or EW when I've thought 'damn I'm really glad we have this 15% mit on WHM now', more a case of 'I have this 15% mit and Pandaemonium's about to give the tanks special cells, guess I'll use it, because where else am I gonna use it? It's not gonna matter either way, they'll live even if I don't use it, but it's either this or I just leave it unused for the whole fight'. Not done DSR and TOP, but if that's where 'it gets it's moment to shine', that's not a justification for it, a skill that only gets to reach it's full potential in two fights in the game is a bit of a waste imo.

[Maltothoris]

Honestly to an extent, the whole level 86 set is a bit 'bloaty'. Did we really 'need' Aquaveil, Protraction, Exaltation and Krasis (ok Krasis gets a bit of a pass cos SGE is new)? I don't really recall any time in SHB or EW when I've thought 'damn I'm really glad we have this 15% mit on WHM now', more a case of 'I have this 15% mit and Pandaemonium's about to give the tanks special cells, guess I'll use it, because where else am I gonna use it? It's not gonna matter either way, they'll live even if I don't use it, but it's either this or I just leave it unused for the whole fight'. Not done DSR and TOP, but if that's where 'it gets it's moment to shine', that's not a justification for it, a skill that only gets to reach it's full potential in two fights in the game is a bit of a waste imo.

The sad thing is I've done the two Ultimates and even then their usefulness is limited in there. There were times that I forgot to be those 86 skills for some tbs and the tanks were just fine in savage and even in Ultimate as well.

[Aravell]

Not done DSR and TOP, but if that's where 'it gets it's moment to shine', that's not a justification for it, a skill that only gets to reach it's full potential in two fights in the game is a bit of a waste imo.

I haven't done TOP, but the lv86 set of stuff gets a chance to shine in DSR during double dragons phase because of the sheer amount of damage the tanks are taking. But 1 phase in 1 ultimate where they actually can help really doesn't much justify the existence of the skills in general. They're not even necessary, they just help a little.

[ty_taurus]

Krasis can actually be nice when paired with a Scholar, but that also means double barrier healers, which requires a modicum of coordination between both healers, and that's a HUGE no-no in FFXIV. Talking to your teammates is a sign of atrocious game design.

[IDontPetLalas]

Krasis can actually be nice when paired with a Scholar, but that also means double barrier healers, which requires a modicum of coordination between both healers, and that's a HUGE no-no in FFXIV. Talking to your teammates is a sign of atrocious game design.

I've always been convinced that's part of the reason that we lost Noct AST. I realize that most AST, by default, were in Diurnal, but God forbid that someone in Noct forgot to switch if paired with a SCH, or 2 ASTs forgot to run Noct/Diurnal. Better just to take any decision-making out of their hands.