Most Important Dawntrail Change to Keep me in FFXIV

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

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Call me negative nancy if you will; but part of me thinks it really is what CBU3 try to do: replacing players like you & ty with the brand new tadpoles that barely knows the history of jobs lobotomization, homogenizing, and such—hoping to drown us in the sea of mediocrity.

Seems to me they’re succeeding in doing that—at least toward ty based on the OP.

[Boblawblah]

Call me negative nancy is you will; but part of me thinks it really is what CBU3 try to do: replacing players like you & ty with the brand new tadpoles that barely knows the history of jobs lobotomization, homogenizing, and such—hoping to drown us in the sea of mediocrity.

Seems to me they’re succeeding in doing that—at least toward ty based on the OP.

Oh, all you grumpy gooses will be here long after the tadpoles are gone.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Oh, all you grumpy gooses will be here long after the tadpoles are gone.

Oh I am certainly grumpy, but I’d rather be an onion… :V

Frankly though, I STILL find things to enjoy in-game. But definitely aren’t coming from PvE for the most part. It’s the social aspect for the most part.

I remember reading another forum poster’s quote sayin’ something along the line: “FFXIV is like a cheap cafe. Foods are… acceptable, or bad. But if you got friends with you, it can be a nice place to hang around, until they’re gone.” — and it personally rings true to my own sentiment.

Let's say that truly is what they're doing.

What will you do? Is there another MMORPG giving you what you want, or would you give up on MMOs for single player games?

I’m probably not exactly the type of player they’re trying to replace—but I’m also not in the group of players they’re trying to attract, so I can't really answer your question. With that being said, moving on is very unlikely for a person like myself who’s tend to be very attached to one game at a time. I’m bad at multi tasking games.

So long they do not mess up -that social aspect- of this game (unlikely IMHO), chances are high I’ll remain here. But that doesn’t mean I’ll stop $h!tt!ng on… say, things like their designed healer gameplay, post patch 6.3 FL Shatter map, etc.

[Boblawblah]

Oh I am certainly grumpy, but I’d rather be an onion… :V

Frankly though, I STILL find things to enjoy in-game. But definitely aren’t coming from PvE for the most part. It’s the social aspect for the most part.

I remember reading another forum poster’s quote sayin’ something along the line: “FFXIV is like a cheap cafe. Foods are… acceptable, or bad. But if you got friends with you, it can be a nice place to hang around, until they’re gone.” — and it personally rings true to my own sentiment.



I’m probably not exactly the type of player they’re trying to replace—but I’m also not in the group of players they’re trying to attract, so I can't really answer your question. With that being said, moving on is very unlikely for a person like myself who’s tend to be very attached to one game at a time. I’m bad at multi tasking games.

So long they do not mess up -that social aspect- of this game (unlikely IMHO), chances are high I’ll remain here. But that doesn’t mean I’ll stop $h!tt!ng on… say, things like their designed healer gameplay, post patch 6.3 FL Shatter map, etc.

See, this is the kind of attitude I can respect. You admit that while there is a lot you'd like to see improved, there are things that keep you here. The mochachino types that just spew hatred for this game constantly can't even admit that they actually love the game, even when they dislike parts of it.

I award you ONE THUMBS UP

[Jojoya]

Call me negative nancy is you will; but part of me thinks it really is what CBU3 try to do: replacing players like you & ty with the brand new tadpoles that barely knows the history of jobs lobotomization, homogenizing, and such—hoping to drown us in the sea of mediocrity.

Seems to me they’re succeeding in doing that—at least toward ty based on the OP.

Let's say that truly is what they're doing.

What will you do? Is there another MMORPG giving you what you want, or would you give up on MMOs for single player games?

[Aravell]

Call me negative nancy is you will; but part of me thinks it really is what CBU3 try to do: replacing players like you & ty with the brand new tadpoles that barely knows the history of jobs lobotomization, homogenizing, and such—hoping to drown us in the sea of mediocrity.

Seems to me they’re succeeding in doing that—at least toward ty based on the OP.

Oh, they can go ahead and replace me with the tadpoles, I've already quit savage and ultimates, the new tadpoles can go ahead and enjoy the sterilised job gameplay in the boredom that is current savage design. I now only play to hang out with friends and I live for crystal tier ranked PvP, that's still fun and enough to keep me around.

I do hope that the people who cheer for the alienation of veterans will eventually realise that new players are a finite resource and have no loyalty or attachment to the game so constantly making the loyal veterans quit will eventually end up very bad though.

[Jeeqbit]

I do hope that the people who cheer for the alienation of veterans will eventually realise that new players are a finite resource and have no loyalty or attachment to the game so constantly making the loyal veterans quit will eventually end up very bad though.

But what if they become loyal and attached? Many of them may not, but some of them definitely do because I meet them in the novice network and elsewhere regularly.

Anyway, I don't think they should alienate veterans but rather try to give people choice. A simple version of each job and an advanced version of each job that both amount to the exact same potency is the idea I thought of to solve this problem and then people can choose what they prefer, the same way some people choose BLM over RDM or SMN because of the movement challenge.

[Aravell]

But what if they become loyal and attached? Many of them may not, but some of them definitely do because I meet them in the novice network and elsewhere regularly.

It's true that some new players may end up loving the game and becoming attached. However, alienating a portion of your already dedicated playerbase by removing things they enjoy and ignoring their feedback in order to try and attract new players is never a smart business decision, it's nothing more than gambling. We also have to remember that the bad spreads faster than the good, if they keep pushing the veterans away, they'll start telling people that the game isn't great, and the potential new blood will become thinner and thinner, that's something they should be wary about.

It may be hard to keep everyone at least content, but it's definitely in their best interests that they do so.

[ty_taurus]

There are many things I still enjoy about the game, it's just unfortunate that the one thing I care about the most has gone from being praise-worthy for the first six years of this game's lifespan to embarrassingly bad.

[Eraden]

Mao been chattings with folks abouts this. Mao by no means any expert on this matter but seems to Mao that problem lies less with healers than it does with tanks and fight designs. Tanks nots taking enough ouchies for healers to be busy. Mao nots talkings about needing more tank busters. Mao talkings about making tanks little bits less damage resistant and for more steady streams damage added along with more occasional mid-sized bursts. Mights help healers be more engaged? Unless of course healers WANT to be DPS. That another issue.