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  1. #11
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    Connor Whelan
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    Quote Originally Posted by seriithaz View Post
    so what i said in my post then? i just wanted advice on how to take the story or something to keep my interest in the game/story
    The point I’m making is that the general ‘mantra’ for this situation is ‘play another game’. And that’s coming straight from Yoshi-P himself lol.

    I still think it’s a fairly terrible business model, but unfortunately that’s just how the game is made. If you lose interest you’re supposed to play something else until your interest is piqued again (if ever).

    Edit to clarify, but I’m not trying to be antagonistic with the message. It’s just unfortunately the way they’ve designed the game to be - something I personally think is a huge flaw.
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  2. #12
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Quote Originally Posted by seriithaz View Post
    Hey everyone I'm still pretty new to this game and coming from WoW dawntrails new job has gotten me excited to play it but I'm struggling to keep my interest while going through msq and the non of the job have been able to keep my interest any suggestions to someone who genuinely wants to play this game to the endgame stuff with raiding pvp crafting glam and etc
    Firstly, if you forget the story, it's alright. When you continue the story, things will come back to you. Remember that for someone who has been playing the game since release, they regularly do each story patch with 4 months between and sometimes story arcs are continued several patches later or multiple expansions later. I have to remember things from ages ago and to be honest with you, I don't always remember, but a vague recollection returns to me when the characters start talking about it and that's good enough for me.

    If I had been away for long enough I would probably just think for a while and try to remember the sequence of events and replay them in my head, or look at some sort of summary to jog my memory. Beside watching old cutscenes there is also the quest journal, where you can click the Complete button and read old quest events. That takes ages to read but it is an option that I use for sidequests I started years ago and never finished.

    Secondly, if you want to enjoy the story then your heart needs to be in it completely. Take your time, soak it in, try to feel the emotions your character would in the situation, imagine these characters being allies, read all the unvoiced text as well that establishes some of the banter and familiarity, do side content that adds additional context to the story (but isn't required to understand it).

    The story events give context to the bosses, their mechanics, the music, the effects and everything, which are all built around the story and without the story, may be less exciting. For example there are story skippers who look at a new patch or expansion and don't understand why everyone is excited, because it is the story that is generating the excitement and motivation to even do all this content.

    But if after understanding all these things, your heart isn't in the story, for some people skipping just works better and there are skip packs you can buy on the mog station.

    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    I mean, it’s literally impossible to play FFXIV ‘long-term’. It simply is not designed that way
    It's not impossible at all. I have played with S rank spawners and conductors who find joy in doing that endlessly for years. Being a mount or achievement collector is another thing that keeps people playing for extensive periods of time as well. There are people that progress savage or ultimate for absolutely months. It is the "only interested in certain content" and "only does the content once" types that feel done very quickly.

    For a new player which is the case here (and relatively speaking, the majority of players probably didn't play since ARR now), there is a backlog of content that can keep someone busy for a long time. For example, I'm in a number of Minimum Item Level CWLS and discords and they have kept themselves busy raiding old content for months/years on a daily basis and they aren't bored yet.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    I mean, it’s literally impossible to play FFXIV ‘long-term’. It simply is not designed that way,

    You’re supposed to play it infrequently for small amounts of time in between other games, according to Yoshi-P. As a result, once you’ve finished MSQ that’s pretty much it for the game unless you like statics and raiding (or fake PvP esports LOL)
    wrong, if you play the game now there is ten yrs of content before when the game started yes there were 3 months of wait for the next patch.
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    Last edited by sagacious; 11-07-2023 at 04:57 AM. Reason: spelling as usual
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    Quote Originally Posted by seriithaz View Post
    Hey everyone I'm still pretty new to this game and coming from WoW dawntrails new job has gotten me excited to play it but I'm struggling to keep my interest while going through msq and the non of the job have been able to keep my interest any suggestions to someone who genuinely wants to play this game to the endgame stuff with raiding pvp crafting glam and etc
    Just quit I've played through the content many times and never get tired of it soo I say quit we don't need quitters ...
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Tip for MSQ: watch the cutscenes. Actually let the voice actors finish their lines and enjoy seeing your character in the setting. Read the whole dialog. It will help you immerse yourself in the story. The story will be more interesting once you're doing the parts you haven't already seen.

    As for long term play, it depends on what you want to do. The game is able to entertain someone for long periods of time assuming the player is willing to put in the time. Actually mentoring newbies, helping them, doing content with them and building a community? Time investment. Contributing to the hunting scene on a daily basis? Time investment. Raiding with a static whilst doing unreal, extreme farming, deep dungeons, ranked pvp and criterion? Time investment. Running your own fc and venues and arranging contests or events several times a week? Time investment. Committing to collecting every TT card, music, emote, fashion accessory, mount and minion the game has to offer? Time investment.

    The people telling you to take breaks aren't doing the above. It's up to you if you want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagacious View Post
    Just quit I've played through the content many times and never get tired of it soo I say quit we don't need quitters ...
    Catgirls...

    Quote Originally Posted by seriithaz View Post
    Hey everyone I'm still pretty new to this game and coming from WoW dawntrails new job has gotten me excited to play it but I'm struggling to keep my interest while going through msq and the non of the job have been able to keep my interest any suggestions to someone who genuinely wants to play this game to the endgame stuff with raiding pvp crafting glam and etc
    Former WoW player who started playing for nearly 2 years now.

    If you were interested at all in the lore in WoW, then you will see a whole different thing here even in the weakest points, particularly, cohesiveness. WoW's lore can't hold a candle to that.

    Now, if you didn't have much interest in the story in WoW and honestly, I don't blame you for that, it might take a bit for you to get hooked. You might notice some cool characters here and there, and paying attention to those is a good start.

    But if you got through the slow pace of ARR, you will do fine, I only suggest one thing in particular. Don't play this game as you played WoW, or at least how it felt to me blizz wanted us to play WoW. Take your time, there's no need to rush to the goal. The PvE content it's really good, but there's no need to get there right away.
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  7. #17
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    So what about the game makes you want to play it long term? What are the parts that you enjoy or that you're wanting to get to? I think knowing that might help us give you advice on how to proceed.
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    Rhel'a Tayuun
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    personally, I have found diving into a lot of side content has extended the game's lifespan for me. It started out as a silly little challenge imposed on me. The challenge is more so patience and it has given me a chance to learn lore I may have otherwise passed up. I would do tribal quests within the expansion I was on and prevent story progression until I completed a list of items that aren't exactly quick to get done (such as when I got all the riding maps for ARR or get every yellow quest done). Now, you do not need to approach it the same way I have for getting side content completed. Maybe you can do silly challenges like only being allowed to do dungeons a certain way (i.e. healers only or solo only or casters only, etc). Maybe being silly can help keep long term interest. However, I would recommend completing the msq first then maybe embarking in weird challenges. Alts also can extend the game's lifespan, especially if they are dedicated to certain things (I have talked to someone who only gardens for multiple FCs on some alts). It might take a while to really find what you want to do in the game. Sometimes taking breaks can also work out, but that is really up to you if you want to do that or not.
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    I finally return to the game! Current goal: getting all my jobs to 90

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    Riamara Skye
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    Quote Originally Posted by seriithaz View Post
    i enjoyed the pvp i did do so ill keep doing it but thanks for the advice i asked for in the post
    I enjoy the pvp too. I don't really do much else in the game these days outside story content when it drops. I have been playing since launch though and don't have a lot I want to "work on". You could just try to do a bit of story whenever you login if it is boring for you. I do suggest reading/watching if you intend to though as doing things with no context is extremely boring. The story is good but a lot to get through. Take your time with it.
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  10. #20
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    Tahbitha El'wynn
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    I myself started playing FF XIV in 2022. Just now finishing up the post-Endwalker MSQ but have done lots of side content on the way. I've had tons of fun but I don't think I could handle starting the MSQ all over again.

    My suggestion, though, is to keep on truckin' now that you've started over. If you get bored, take a break.
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