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    Possibility of Phoenix Down Potions in 2.0?

    I would like to suggest the possibility of putting Phoenix Down in 2.0. I think this is something that is really needed in this game. The reason is for me at least is that it is getting abit annoying when partying and say fighting someone like Garuda only to have everyone survive except the WHM and being reduced to standing around wiping because no one can raise them.

    I use Garuda as an example because it's imo the toughest fight yet but I don't see the point in having any future fights or current setup that way and why everyone has to wipe just because a player happens to die while everyone is almost at full health. Granted obviously raise is a big part of the Conj/WHM job that is very important and I know some will make the argument that it will ruin that class.

    However I think being able to use one as a last ditch effort type thing could make some fights alot more interesting and it obviously wouldn't be something you could just spam as it really would make that healers class a little less useful. Even if it means putting a 5 minute cooldown or something on the player that gets it and maybe making them a little more pricey than usual so they aren't something you could stack up on so easily and would think twice about using them only in the worst case scenarios could allow a nice strategy to a fight.

    This wouldn't just be for WHM it could be anyone even if the WHM can't get to the downed person or some sort of scenario like this. It could also bring a little more risk taking if you know you have that one last option if something does screw up.
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    Last edited by Eight; 07-12-2012 at 12:16 AM.

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    At present, players would have to purchase the Company Tonic for 200 seals to revive a player.

    Although it may not be common place, I highly recommend everyone carry one even the White Mage.

    Having an alchemic product such as a tuft of Phoenix Down would also be nice, even if it had 5 minute cooldown.
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    Maybe its the terrible description that makes me think otherwise but the company tonics revives other players??
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    Quote Originally Posted by FalseSwipe View Post
    Maybe its the terrible description that makes me think otherwise but the company tonics revives other players??
    there are 2 the tonic and the other one. One is cheaper but only has a chance to revive the player, I have yet to have the cheaper one fail though.
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    Correction: I interpreted the description to mean the tonics could remove Weakness and Brink of Death.
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    Last edited by Fiosha_Maureiba; 07-12-2012 at 12:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FalseSwipe View Post
    Maybe its the terrible description that makes me think otherwise but the company tonics revives other players??
    Yeah pretty much everyone knew it revives people..most just refuse to buy them lol.
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    I would imagine that if SE did release an alchemic synth version of the revive medicine it would work in the same manner as the "flawless" synths. They would most likely have it where it's non-stackable and the NQ version works in the same manner as the cheaper revive tonic while the the HQ version would work in the same manner as the 200 GC tonic. It would most likely require a material similar to the vampire plant and the cooldown might be something like 15-30 mins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba View Post
    At present, players would have to purchase the Company Tonic for 200 seals to revive a player.

    Although it may not be common place, I highly recommend everyone carry one even the White Mage.

    Having an alchemic product such as a tuft of Phoenix Down would also be nice, even if it had 5 minute cooldown.
    The old man in me feels that this "tonic" should be name-changed to "Phoenix Down" ASAP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba View Post
    Correction: I interpreted the description to mean the tonics could remove Weakness and Brink of Death.
    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Yeah pretty much everyone knew it revives people..most just refuse to buy them lol.

    The way i understood the description was that it removed weakness which would be a waste, +10 points for terrible item description
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    Hmm that is good to know I didn't think that those could revive either. Still I think just having potions would still be beneficial and not having to use seals for everything I personally would prefer.
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