Sharing Estates With Alt Characters

[MAJRIS]

it should be 100 percent if the alts are in the same relm peroid whats the big deal

The reason it such features take effort and if the management has no graph saying "putting time to develop this feature will bring us good revenue" then they wont approve it.

That's why blizzard will never do a token system like xiv's extremes


Their whole modus operandi is layers upon layers of RNG because they raised their players this way, and if they guaranteed them desired items like the new dragonflight legendaries after certain grind, people would unsub faster after they are done with obtaining it.


https://worldofwork.io/2019/07/drown...y-experiments/

Interesting read.

[Raven_Duskveil]

The reason it such features take effort and if the management has no graph saying "putting time to develop this feature will bring us good revenue" then they wont approve it.

That's why blizzard will never do a token system like xiv's extremes


Their whole modus operandi is layers upon layers of RNG because they raised their players this way, and if they guaranteed them desired items like the new dragonflight legendaries after certain grind, people would unsub faster after they are done with obtaining it.


https://worldofwork.io/2019/07/drown...y-experiments/

Interesting read.

While I agree that there needs to be some tangible monetary motivation behind most game updates, there is something to be said about having less things get in the way of having fun. The more often players are having fun regarding different game features that aren't pointlessly limited (like housing) the more consecutive months a player will be subbed before unsubbing to wait for another game update. But in regards to end game grind, ya they are absolutely motivated to make it a pain to gear in order to keep players subbed longer, but I digress... This particular needed housing feature would only benefit them and cost them less money in the long run.

[MistyMew]

It's absolutely RIDICULOUS that we cannot share a private house with alt characters AND that there is no account storage. The only way to get around it is to create a second account, form an alt-based FC, buy an FC house and "share" it like that. And THAT is not the same thing. In this day and age... it's UNACCEPTABLE!!!

we need to share a house with alts and also be able to mail to alts!! way way over due.

[Donze]

I concur, doubly so with how aggressive they are in deleting the contents of a place (35 days, and poof, even though I have retainers 5-6 im no longer subscribed to whos inventory exists indefinitely).

The only thing I want is to be able to use 1 apartment. Thats it. I won't do a personal house again, and FC houses are a non-issue. Why my main and 2 alts are not default on each others friends list is beyond me. Just seems like lazy execution.

[Reinha]

People shouldn't have to make their own fc to share items and Gil with alts and to share the same house. But we do have to, so I made one. It's really great to share things account wide. There is no good reason to not have this as a default feature. Alts should be automatic tenants and they should be on the moogle mail list too.

[Lukrafter]

Doesn't help the housing issue as a whole when people are able to circumvent the rules. Example, there are several dozen single person FC's with housing. And the only character in the FC is one that hasn't met the requirements to even purchase a house. What people do is create FC's, use a character that has the ability to bid on housing, gets the house then has their buddy transfer leadership of that fc over to their little baby alt, and then leave the FC with just their alt in it. Presto, they now have a lvl 2 alt with its own house all to themselves. This takes up housing from people who are actually "playing by the rules". I've suggested SE should put into effect some rules for FC purchases. FC's must have and maintain a certain # in order to buy and keep certain sized housing. Minimum of 5 for a small plot, 50+ for a medium and 100+ for a large.

[Khryseis_Astra]

Honestly they should really revamp housing altogether… and I’m not even talking about my usual instanced campaign, even though I’m still a strong advocate of adding that alongside the wards.

Something I think that should be an easy ask (though I’m sure someone will let me know if I’m wrong! lol) is this: make personal housing mostly the same as FC housing. (Let’s leave aside the argument of whether or not personals should have workshops or not for now. I don’t really care either way.) But what I’m talking about first of all, is the ability to add extra apartment-sized rooms. Now alongside of that, every character on your account is automatically added as a tenant to any estate you own, as long as they’re on the same world. I think the max number is 8 characters per account at the moment? So they can all share the estate and have individual rooms, and you can set permissions so they can all interact with the property. After that, you can still have the same 2 friend tenant slots you already get in a personal, and manage their settings as well. So we’re talking about 10 rooms being able to be added to a personal estate. Then add a storage chest like the FC chest to personal estates, so all characters can trade items and gil through that; seems the easiest way to get around the trading issue. And finally, estate permissions in general. I was hopeful when I saw how Island Sanctuary managed who could visit your island, that we would get similar controls with housing. But you should be able to have toggles to either make it closed, or allow friends, FC members, party members or be totally open to all. Along with that, anyone you blacklist should automatically be unable to enter your house. I think just doing this would go a long way in making the game more alt friendly. They’d still have to fix the lack of housing supply though!

[Raven_Duskveil]

Would love if SE would consider also making more things account wide. So many other mmo's make a lot of stuff account wide, and I'm just not sure why this game is set up to almost punish you when you have to pay for more character slots (well actually not sure if that is still a thing, but I know when I first started playing there was a price difference)

[Ayan_Calvesse]

Doesn't help the housing issue as a whole when people are able to circumvent the rules. Example, there are several dozen single person FC's with housing. And the only character in the FC is one that hasn't met the requirements to even purchase a house. What people do is create FC's, use a character that has the ability to bid on housing, gets the house then has their buddy transfer leadership of that fc over to their little baby alt, and then leave the FC with just their alt in it. Presto, they now have a lvl 2 alt with its own house all to themselves. This takes up housing from people who are actually "playing by the rules". I've suggested SE should put into effect some rules for FC purchases. FC's must have and maintain a certain # in order to buy and keep certain sized housing. Minimum of 5 for a small plot, 50+ for a medium and 100+ for a large.

While I like the spirit of the idea; there are plenty of "FC's" that are a few players as large amounts of the playerbase go on long hiatus leaving 1 or 2 members still playing the game to hold onto the house the FC earned. As someone who has been here since the beginning I've seen it first hand as FC's wither.

[Ayan_Calvesse]

we need to share a house with alts and also be able to mail to alts!! way way over due.

I would agree with sharing houses with alts provided that your restricted to 1 private home per DC.