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  1. #1
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    Raven_Duskveil's Avatar
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    Min Tea
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    Zalera
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100

    Sharing Estates With Alt Characters

    Many changes have rolled out to housing over the years, most of them positive ones! Initially, limiting player housing to one per character was a great change for the community, as was limiting housing to one per world per service account...

    BUT

    The inability to share your estate with yourself on an alt, or share an alt's estate with your main is a huge drawback considering the changes made. If you own a house on character A, but want to show the house to friends or hang out at it on character B, you have to log out of character B, meet that friend on character A so they can add that character, log out of character A, log back in on character B and then RUN all the way to your own house while your friend teleports there easily and is waiting for you to make the trip.

    Did you get a headache reading that? I wouldn't be surprised, because I get a headache every time I have to go through this process.

    Apparently long before I started playing, there was a bug people had exploited to "add their own alt" so they can share an estate with it, which SE had then patched so you couldn't do that anymore... which begs the question as to why? Clearly the ability to share an estate with your own alt...or allow your alts to teleport to housing you own on the same world on the same service account as a built in feature is something highly desired.

    Why focus on patching the only way this was possible five years ago, and not put any thought into a possible solution? With how common it is for housing to be a pain point for players, and how difficult it can be to get a house on certain worlds, I just question as to why it would be a benefit to SE or the players to limit that functionality for any other reason than "it not being how SE intended for housing to be used".

    That is the end of the rant portion of my post, if you are still reading thank you, because....

    I am also here to offer a solution.

    I am suggesting there be a "character sync" feature added to the game, where all characters on the same service account, AND on the same world are given access to an "Owned Characters" tab under the social or system section of the menu.

    From this menu, you can teleport to estates owned by your other character, request to join an FC your other character is in, and send mail to your other character to more easily facilitate the transfer of items without the need of trusting the items/gil to still be there in an FC chest OR trusting another player to not run off with your items (which then leads to time wasted by GM's following up on scam reports)

    In the long run, I feel these changes wouldn't only benefit the community, but would cause much less headaches for GM's and SE as a whole.

    If you have any other thoughts, suggestions, or questions please jump in and let's have a discussion.

    Thank you for your time and have a wonderful day in Eorzea!
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    SE first addressed this issue themselves back in Stormblood. After adding the new rule that limited accounts to one personal house per world, they said they were aware that players wanted to add their alts as tenants to the house they purchased and they were going to work on a solution.

    Then they went radio silent on the subject until early this expansion when it was brought up again in a Q&A. The latest response was that it has not been forgotten and they still intend to address it but they first wanted to prioritize making more houses available for those that have been unable to get one before adding QOL for those that already have a house.

    It's still anyone's guess as to when they'll finally get around to fixing it. At this point, we'll have to hope it will be included with the housing updates they've already specifically mentioned for Dawntrail.
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    Roll Ryuko
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    Yes.

    Also can i create more rooms with a singular character in my FC house?

    The 1 room per character is abit stiff.
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  4. #4
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    Min Tea
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    Yup I have my fingers crossed for 7.0

    Hopefully someone from SE reads this at some point.

    Thanks for your input
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    Ayan Calvesse
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    Reaper Lv 100
    *raises hand* Guilty as the way it was done (don't think it breaks TOS because its no longer possible) people would group with their main and their alt with someone else...DC their alt and login their main and send a friend request to their alt via the Party UI.

    Honestly I think really if they wanted to solve a loss of resources without increasing overhead - simply restrict you to 1 house per DC and 1 FC ownership per DC.

    To that extent you automatically are given full rights to ALL houses on your SA; so if I manage to land a house on Zalera; even if I am from Balmung - I can still make use of it - drastically reducing the issue of high pop servers. Furthermore and this is a bit of a ask -

    +allow ALL alts to make a FC room in your FC as well as any FC you are part of. From a RP perspective it would save on the issue of IL as it would allow for stuff like bedrooms and such to be added to FCs

    +require all multiple FC owners to "claim" one of their buildings and return all others to the lotto cycle - any submarines/airships and FC credits would be added to said FC (discarding the submarine limit or make it possible to buy more slots or grandfather it out)

    +Put all FC chest items into the caretaker and allow for further expansion of the vault slots.

    Really getting rid of the relevance of "what world your on" would go a great length to solving resource issues - as worlds are essentially just "instances" when we already have zone "instancing"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    *raises hand* Guilty as the way it was done (don't think it breaks TOS because its no longer possible) people would group with their main and their alt with someone else...DC their alt and login their main and send a friend request to their alt via the Party UI.

    Honestly I think really if they wanted to solve a loss of resources without increasing overhead - simply restrict you to 1 house per DC and 1 FC ownership per DC.

    To that extent you automatically are given full rights to ALL houses on your SA; so if I manage to land a house on Zalera; even if I am from Balmung - I can still make use of it - drastically reducing the issue of high pop servers. Furthermore and this is a bit of a ask -

    +allow ALL alts to make a FC room in your FC as well as any FC you are part of. From a RP perspective it would save on the issue of IL as it would allow for stuff like bedrooms and such to be added to FCs

    +require all multiple FC owners to "claim" one of their buildings and return all others to the lotto cycle - any submarines/airships and FC credits would be added to said FC (discarding the submarine limit or make it possible to buy more slots or grandfather it out)

    +Put all FC chest items into the caretaker and allow for further expansion of the vault slots.

    Really getting rid of the relevance of "what world your on" would go a great length to solving resource issues - as worlds are essentially just "instances" when we already have zone "instancing"
    Thank you for your input, and for being constructive!

    I feel that discussions like this, although full of critical feedback of the game we all love, comes from a place of us all just wanting to see FFXIV continue to improve and I hope SE knows this comes from a place of hope for the game, and not just whining ^.^

    If you have anything else you'd like to add in case SE happens to read, feel free to share. I personally couldn't sit around talking in my own friend circle about these things I'd like to see improved any longer. It is basically shouting into an echo chamber unless we let our voices be heard in a place where they can do some good.

    I hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
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    Night Hour
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    Odin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I'd love the ability to share my house with my alt.
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    Sigr Waldgeist
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    Phantom
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    Samurai Lv 100
    It's absolutely RIDICULOUS that we cannot share a private house with alt characters AND that there is no account storage. The only way to get around it is to create a second account, form an alt-based FC, buy an FC house and "share" it like that. And THAT is not the same thing. In this day and age... it's UNACCEPTABLE!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Communion View Post
    It's absolutely RIDICULOUS that we cannot share a private house with alt characters AND that there is no account storage. The only way to get around it is to create a second account, form an alt-based FC, buy an FC house and "share" it like that. And THAT is not the same thing. In this day and age... it's UNACCEPTABLE!!!

    This game really needs to become more alt friendly. Otherwise...what is the point of allowing us to create so many alts?
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    John Carterix
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 90
    it should be 100 percent if the alts are in the same relm peroid whats the big deal
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