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  1. #51
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    BlueMage's Avatar
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    Raine Jaeger
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    "Derp derp y wuld heelerz need heeling?"

    Probably because they pulled hate from spam healing to keep the dumb lazy DD (who's taking far more damage than the other 7 members of the party because they're facerolling while standing in a damage hazard) alive.

    Some people are such bad players that they're worse than an empty slot in the party, and its best to just let them die before they sabotage the fight or waste too many needed resources.
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  2. #52
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    I personally dont bother healing DD that constantly keep taking damages from plumes/eruption/pom flares. Terrible players are terrible.
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  3. #53
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    Indira Cliodhna
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    i know what the OP means.

    im almost always a WHM and its not hard if you can think ahead, alot of people just do things as it happens then its too late. theres always gonna be people who cant manage what to do thats why you keep regen on the tank and melee DD so when you have to keep focus on the tank atleast there getting a little hp while they wait.

    only thing i hate in boss type fights is when people wont stand where they need too then i gotta burn up my raises & mp on them, accidents happen but happen less when they do what they need to. range DD need know a fight good enough to not get constantly beat up and some refuse to learn and keep doing what they been doing. like standing on the out side ring in moogle fight where the tank is kiting and then the kings aoe destroys them.
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  4. #54
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    RathSkybreaker's Avatar
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    Rath Skybreaker
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkillumina View Post
    Didn't read this whole thread but my response to all WHM is this.

    Shut up and heal. =)
    No


    10 words to post
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  5. #55
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    Gentaro's Avatar
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    Kupli Koop
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    That all depends on the fight, Lina is 100% right when we talk about Moogle, cause you can't avoid taking damage as a dd there. Usually one WHM takes care of the tank and the other one of the rest in my PTs.

    When we talk about Ifrit it all depends on the situation. Both WHMs have main priority on the tank there, having one focus on the rest of the party should be necessary as DDs SHOULD avoid almost all damage (his close-range AoE is the only thing that should hit melees, but a Regen is usually enough for that). I gladly toss a Heal/Regen/Stoneskin in the back lines there, but if I can't afford the MP or the Tank needs healing, I simply can't help them. And especially in the last phase, that's often the case. :3
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  6. #56
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    Reaux's Avatar
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    Rorota Rota
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Please don't take my levels too seriously as I rerolled my character.

    My favorite thing is when DD's or tanks complain about heals when they themselves have never mained healed as a "career" job in a game. The only job that has leway in complaints is a tank because the have a pretty big responsibility. But DD's...you have maybe 3.

    1.) Deal damage
    2.) Don't steal hate
    3.) Mitigate damage

    As a main healer your job is to keep THE WHOLE GROUP alive and ALL BUFFS up, with some situational triage as necessary. That is a pretty tall order considering how important our buffs are and and one misstep could mean a wipe. Yes, sometimes the healer needs healing because we play a risk v reward game. Step in to heal an ailing party member and we might take a hit which needs to be healed or wait for a safer opening which may cause them to take another hit and die. That's why 2 healers in a party prioritize each other. We are not immune to damage and while we have ways to heal, our hp and defense are far lower than a DDs. No class DD, tank, or heals, is excused from using consumables...everyone should have them, but it is also not always feasible to use them at exactly the right moment. It is never any classes job to make up for people's stupidity, that was mentioned somewhere so I am commenting on it. Games are designed as a team effort and should be played as such. a Bard has ways to heal and support, all jobs have a form of damage mitigation via dodging and self healing. Do your part.
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    Last edited by Reaux; 07-09-2012 at 01:51 AM.

  7. #57
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    DeadRiser's Avatar
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    Kipp Kaida
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Lol I don't know if this is true or not but it seems like people are making assumptions that I'm a bad DD lol. So many times on Ifrit and Moogle have I outlasted the whole party because I've done the two so much.

    No I am not taking damage from things that can easily be missed like Pom Flare.

    This one experience was with Japanese players and I've noticed a trend with NA players.

    Please people, don't make assumptions about my skill level because of this thread. Seems like half the people making assumptions didn't even read the Actual post
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  8. #58
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    Xianghua's Avatar
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    Fiona Valencia
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    No job is really harder then the other it depends on the player and the group. Every job though depends on each other.

    A tank can't tank if he doesn't get heals.
    A DD can't deal dmg if a tank doesn't keep hate or a healer doesn't keep them alive.
    A healer can't keep people alive if they keep doing stupid things to take damage.

    If one job doesn't do their role it will effect everyone else's role and brings the entire party down.

    The problem most of you seem to have is you run with shitty players most the time. So you only have experience with shitty DD who don't know wtf they are doing. If they are really so bad they bring nothing good to the party then stop running with them. It's your own fault and doesn't give you an excuse to not do your job when you do get good DDs that need heals from time to time. People will make mistakes and take dmg.

    Edit: If DPS is such an easy job. Why do most of them suck so bad?
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    Last edited by Xianghua; 07-09-2012 at 02:49 AM.

  9. #59
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    I love playing WHM

    it's the bestest. also the stressedest. don't piss us off or you won't get to your loot chest.


    j/k we love you all equally, even the "special" ones.
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  10. #60
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    Pissing and moaning that DD shouldn't take damage doesn't do anyone a bit of good. If you aren't healing the people that need healing regardless of how or why they took damage, then you're an awful healer.
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