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    RathSkybreaker's Avatar
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    Rath Skybreaker
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 90
    Eh, if a DD moves out of my range, his problem, not mine. It's like life guarding, you cross the safety lines, I'm not saving you. xD
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    BlueMage's Avatar
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    Raine Jaeger
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    If your HP is in the red, and you know the boss is spamming melee AOEs... maybe you should stop meleeing take a few steps back out of AOE range, what with your realizing you're going to die and that the healer is too busy to heal you. It's not like you'd be missing out on all the damage you'd be doing while dead anyway, so put even just a little effort in keeping yourself alive, instead of expecting healer's to wipe your ass for you.
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    Xianghua's Avatar
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    Fiona Valencia
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    All of you healer's that don't want to or down right refuse to heal the DD's are the reason most groups use brd/blm.

    It's different if they are taking unnecessary obsessive damage. But They will take damage its part of the game there is no reason you shouldn't throw them some heals/regen when you can.
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    Last edited by Xianghua; 07-07-2012 at 07:18 PM.

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    Gugnir's Avatar
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    Fri Day
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    Midgardsormr
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    Viper Lv 100
    In triage people are moved to the back of the line, like mp sponges and if you're a hot mess, as a damage dealer do you really think it looks good for you blaming others for your short comings? I've been in many parties where I just left people dead because it was more efficient to raise some one else, their dps sucked and when parsed they took more damage than the tank. It is a white mages job in my humble opinion to keep the party alive not a person. So, given the choice between that and a wipe, if you don't have second wind or a pot you'll need to wait for a heal.

    You can't expect random white mages to know how to properly assess triage or to provide great health care in random parties, you tend to get pug white mages that use dated willow wands or heal in crafting gear but its kind of insulting to players who do take pride in what they do, lumping them in with that crowd.

    I'll give you my imperial operative dalmatica (actually not this one XD ), my trips and quad melds if you think you can do a better job. White mages should be specialists at what they do but a lot aren't and I can say the same for a lot of dds. Don't include me in that blanket statement, and its pretty easy to blame a white mage for your own mistake but remember. We are the ones picking you up off the ground.

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    Last edited by Gugnir; 07-07-2012 at 07:52 PM.

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    Xianghua's Avatar
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    Fiona Valencia
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Gugnir View Post
    Don't include me in that blanket statement, and its pretty easy to blame a white mage for your own mistake but remember. We are the ones picking you up off the ground.

    Don't just quote half a sentence and take it out of context. Read again I said. whms that don't want to or refuse to heal dd

    If a DD is taking dmg that he can dodge it's his fault. But refusing to cure them when it's your job to is pretty lazy and makes you a shitty whm. So if you refuse to heal your dps then yes that statement does apply to you.
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    BlueMage's Avatar
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    Raine Jaeger
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gugnir View Post
    In triage people are moved to the back of the line, like mp sponges and if you're a hot mess, as a damage dealer do you really think it looks good for you blaming others for your short comings? I've been in many parties where I just left people dead because it was more efficient to raise some one else, their dps sucked and when parsed they took more damage than the tank. It is a white mages job in my humble opinion to keep the party alive not a person. So, given the choice between that and a wipe, if you don't have second wind or a pot you'll need to wait for a heal.
    This. Sometimes the party is even better off with certain DDs dead.
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    Player HiirNoivl's Avatar
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    Hiir Noivl
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I missed you too! /hug
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    Randelmire's Avatar
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    Macaroni Love
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    I must agree with Hiir.

    I do try to heal everyone but I also have to keep priority on the tank, and manage hate and mp. If I would start running around everywhere, sometime it means I'm regenerating my mp slower and may run out of mp.

    Also, about running around in Ifrit, most of the time when some WHM started doing that things went wrong pretty fast.
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    Last edited by Randelmire; 07-07-2012 at 08:40 PM.

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    Belmont Blanc
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    Masamune
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    Warrior Lv 90
    This seem to be neverend (´;ω;`).
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    Robin Gunn
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I'm really glad someone made this thread. I main tank and whm. That's all I get to do 90% of the time. We'll use Moogle since that was the original situation here. Everyone is in the middle of the arena. WHM does not have to run anywhere to heal the DD. That's a poor excuse for tunnel vision. I manage just fine to heal the tank and keep all (not just one) of the DD full hp. Regen is easily the most misused spell in this game and I see so many WHM players just completely ignore it or spam it on only the tank. It's ridiculously cheap, quick cast, and virtually no cooldown. I can't count the number of parties I've been in actually getting to DD where the WHM literally never cast a spell on anyone but the tank or themselves and then complain that the DD died. Wat? Getting pomflared like a derp is one thing, but slowing dying over the course of a fight is entirely the WHM fault. OP is correct, most WHM don't know how to properly heal. The problem lies in the fact that everyone is so used to ARC or BLM stacking that you don't ever have to heal anyone. Yoshi is fixing that and the skeleton in the closet is rearing his ugly, non DD healing head.
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