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    Rhalgrs Reach should never have existed

    I've been thinking about this for a long time, and what went wrong with the Stormblood expansion.

    It was Rhalgrs Reach. Literally nobody asked for it. Instead of Ala Mhigo being fully accessible in the story, we got this hub that everyone forgets about after Stormblood. If those resources had been used for Ala Mhigo instead, it would of reflected better in the story. Think about it. Ala Mhigo would of made more sense as that expansions Eulmore, or Thavnair rather than Rhalgrs Reach. Rhalgrs Reach might be the base of the resistance, but they didn't have to make the story around that. They could of used any of the other towns in Gyr Albania, and had it as some kind of a story related hold out. Rhalgrs Reach isn't even interesting other than its Monk lore, which it isn't even used for anymore. There was no point hyping or building up, or tying it to Monks when it literally did NOTHING for the story after we reclaimed Ala Mhigo.

    We still could have gone to Kugane, but in this alternative timeline, Rhalgrs Reach would not have been the second hub, and Ala Mhigo would of have actually been used. It would of made for a better expansion looking back. I think it was a complete waste of dev resources, and created the issues that we have today with Gyr Albania feeling awkward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    UGH I hate comments like this. So disrespectful. I put in the time and effort to make a point, and you come at with that attitude. Lame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    UGH I hate comments like this. So disrespectful. I put in the time and effort to make a point, and you come at with that attitude. Lame.
    If it comes off as a hot take, people will respond as so.

    Pointing out that you hate comments like that usually won't deter people from making more comments they know will get under your skin.


    But any kind of problem with pacing in an area is due to us always needing to have the full hub unlocked by the capstone level, and each problem we tackle in an expansion being it needs to generally be mostly overish by the end of the X.0 content, and then the aftermath of said story for the next while, before the build up to the next expac.

    Like I get it, but also it's an MMO, so things flow differently than a single player game would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    UGH I hate comments like this. So disrespectful. I put in the time and effort to make a point, and you come at with that attitude. Lame.
    You weren't making a good point. Story wise it made a lot more sense for the Resistance to set up a base in Rhalgr's Reach than elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    You weren't making a good point. Story wise it made a lot more sense for the Resistance to set up a base in Rhalgr's Reach than elsewhere.
    That's subjective. I think it's an interesting and fairly valid point, actually.

    Rhalgr's Reach is a pretty boring area that doesn't have much relevance or point to it following SB's MSQ, and Ala Mhigo does suffer from being shunted in right at the end of the expansion as a vague overworld area after being overshadowed by Doma for much of the story, despite being portrayed as a fairly important piece of Eorzea's story prior to that. Resistances often have hubs hidden throughout the place they're trying to liberate, and personally I think it would have been a much more entertaining angle to attempt to liberate the city from within via a more secretive, espionage-type route that then results in the all-out war and eventual face off with Zenos that we do get. We would have seen much more of Ala Mhigo, its culture, its people and their story than we did from seventy odd miles away hanging around old villages and abandoned training grounds, and actually get a feel for the impact of the occupation in the city proper and the conflict with the Garleans, while developing more of a bond with them in the way we did the Domans and Ishgardians. It would have gone a long way in mitigating the blandness that colours their portion of the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    You weren't making a good point. Story wise it made a lot more sense for the Resistance to set up a base in Rhalgr's Reach than elsewhere.
    Well that's subjective, but also, these are forums and we need to communicate like actual human beings. If you think someone is making a poor point then you need to express it in words.

    If that person is trolling or being a bad actor then you just shouldn't write anything.

    I know I do the same thing Stormy did sometimes too. I won't even deny it, but most of that just comes down to forum culture. It's not something we should actively be doing or encouraging. I really think in general the forum needs to reign in the toxicity that it's been displaying for the last week. It's actually somehow feels worse than when titanmen was necroing every thread in sight.
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    Last edited by NekoMataMata; 11-03-2023 at 07:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    UGH I hate comments like this. So disrespectful. I put in the time and effort to make a point, and you come at with that attitude. Lame.
    Ignore Stormpeaks. They get off on bringing people down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    Ignore Stormpeaks. They get off on bringing people down.


    Me posting a gif saying "okay" is bringing people down ? If every time I'd get a gif saying "okay" I'd have to feel down, I would feel down a lot.

    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    So we have to put up with bullying, and just allow it to exist because people make threads. Nice logic there.
    New to the internet ? Posting a gif is not bullying, especially when said gif just says "okay"
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 11-04-2023 at 07:54 AM.

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    Rhalgrs Reach is like universally everyone's favorite hub because you could show off your mount in town.
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