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    Allow Seeker of the Sun miqo'te to have longer fangs

    Longer fangs are a feature available only to Keeper of the Moon miqo'te and with the upcoming graphical update, there will likely be some changes or updates to the options available in the character creation menu.

    This is why I would like to take this opportunity to ask the developers to let Seekers of the Sun have long fangs, just like the Keepers.


    While I realize this might be seen as "stealing" subracial features from the Keepers, I believe this option should be available for the Seekers due to several reasons:

    1. The main visual distinction between both groups is found in the eyes because of the amount of light they are exposed to: more for Seekers, less for Keepers.

    2. Keepers of the Moon already have the ability to choose features that are meant for Seekers such as the leonine tail option.

    3. Both groups can choose skin tones that resemble those favored by the other. Keepers in particular have it a bit easier in my opinion to look like a Seeker in this regard, as the latter has less blue-ish skin tone options.

    4. There's lore about the existence of miqo'te being born from the interaction between both groups, which is already reflected in the character creation, as shown in the 2nd and 3rd points. Adding fangs to the possible options would expand the choices for those role play focused players too.


    Both groups will still get to keep other differences such as the racial face paint options, although I wish we could mix and match these as we desired as well and between face types.

    I also have the same feeling about beard options, as they are quite lacking for miqo'te in general and locked to specific faces but that's a different issue.

    Finally, it seems that fang size differs depending on the face type chosen, so I would like to ask the devs to let us choose the fang size instead of tying it to the face type.

    Please like and reply to this post to support the suggestion if you agree with it!

    Are there any character creation options that you wish were expanded for miqo'te of either or both groups or that they should have access to?

    EDIT. Find below other threads and posts in the past asking for fangs to be available for both clans, as well as for a desire from the player base to overhaul and expand the character creation options:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...gs#post6185901

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ter-creator%21

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...gs#post5466897

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...gs#post6118815

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5186735

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post3707943
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    Last edited by Aco505; 11-06-2023 at 04:16 AM.

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    Have always thought Miqo'te could stand to look less human, and giving them fangs across the board would definitely be a step in the right direction.
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    Glamour without restrictions* is long overdue!
    If you think so too, help keep the thread going!


    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/455359-We-really-should-be-able-to-glamour-other-jobs-sets

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    Yes! Let me have fangs as a seeker please!
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    Last edited by mallleable; 11-03-2023 at 05:50 AM.

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    Gib and Taek.

    if it's gonna be like that.

    The the uniqueness of both races should be available on the other.

    So mooncats can also have slitted eyes.

    Tis only fair.

    [While I have no desire to have a Miqo Alt. Always Prefered how special Mooncats are. with their wide eyes and Sharp Fangs.]

    But like said, if you're gonna lose racial trait specialty between your Tribes/Races.

    Then it should go both ways.



    edit: if it wasnt obvious. I'm Not in support at all.
    Since not only would it remove specialty between both clans.
    But it would practically leave no reason for moon cats, except for more darker tones. More chocolate/monochrome, than Vanilla/bright.

    So in all fairness, with the destruction of clan specialty. Mooncats would also have the option for the same eyes of Suncats.

    Tis only Fair to mooncats. if so.

    ps. bringing up the mixing of the clans is quite similar to how you have the mixing of the races.

    We don't have any news about a character creator update.
    The biggest concerns is that everything players have done/enjoyed is passed on in a graphical improved way.
    (which includes, glassiness/glow).

    if they do add clan mixing. expect it to be almost as likely as half mixed races
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    Last edited by GTK0HLK; 11-03-2023 at 06:09 AM.

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    Dynamic Miqo'te eyes that adapt to lighting in real time. Make it happen, Yoshi-P
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    Glamour without restrictions* is long overdue!
    If you think so too, help keep the thread going!


    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/455359-We-really-should-be-able-to-glamour-other-jobs-sets

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTK0HLK View Post
    So in all fairness, with the destruction of clan specialty. Mooncats would also have the option for the same eyes of Suncats.
    The visual differences between both clans are:

    1. Eyes. Seekers have slit eyes, Keepers have very dilated pupils.

    2. Skin tone options. Both still have options to adopt skin tones similar to the other group, with Keepers having a way easier time with this.

    3. Racial face paint distribution. Depending on the face type and clan, these change. For example, face 1 Keepers can have lines on the sides of the face without the pattern above the nose. Seekers will always have the nose pattern if trying to go for this specific one.

    4. Keepers have long fangs.

    Keepers actually have more clan features going for them than Seekers, whose main feature is the slit eyes. Not even the leonine tail, which is supposed to be a Seeker thing, is exclusive to them.

    There may be other things I've missed though but that's the gist of it. As I explain, there's also miqo'te born from the interaction between both groups.

    The idea is to make long fangs for Seekers a possibility. Not everyone has to go through with it and a player can choose to stick to the more canonical appearance of their desired clan if they so wish.
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    I would only be okay with it if we also got access to the slit cat eyes. Each clan has 1 unique cat thing they offer, Keepers have fangs and Seekers have the eyes. Seekers are already more popular due to the slit kitty eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aco505 View Post
    The visual differences between both clans are:

    1. Eyes. Seekers have slit eyes, Keepers have very dilated pupils.

    2. Skin tone options. Both still have options to adopt skin tones similar to the other group, with Keepers having a way easier time with this.

    3. Racial face paint distribution. Depending on the face type and clan, these change. For example, face 1 Keepers can have lines on the sides of the face without the pattern above the nose. Seekers will always have the nose pattern if trying to go for this specific one.

    4. Keepers have long fangs.

    Keepers actually have more clan features going for them than Seekers, whose main feature is the slit eyes. Not even the leonine tail, which is supposed to be a Seeker thing, is exclusive to them.

    There may be other things I've missed though but that's the gist of it. As I explain, there's also miqo'te born from the interaction between both groups.

    The idea is to make long fangs for Seekers a possibility. Not everyone has to go through with it and a player can choose to stick to the more canonical appearance of their desired clan if they so wish.
    And the ears.

    The A Realm Reborn version brought some differences: for instance the Seeker of the Sun Miqo'te's ears are wider with thick hair, while the Keeper of the Moon Miqo'te have stylized ears with short hair and are slightly longer and thinner.

    from finalfantasy.fandom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    And the ears.

    The A Realm Reborn version brought some differences: for instance the Seeker of the Sun Miqo'te's ears are wider with thick hair, while the Keeper of the Moon Miqo'te have stylized ears with short hair and are slightly longer and thinner.

    from finalfantasy.fandom
    If you have pictures that actually show this difference, please show me, because to me ears look exactly the same for both. They only change depending on the hairstyle and not the race.

    If there's any difference, it's extremely subtle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aco505 View Post
    If you have pictures that actually show this difference, please show me, because to me ears look exactly the same for both. They only change depending on the hairstyle and not the race.

    If there's any difference, it's extremely subtle.
    Nothing I've really payed attention to myself.
    It's just something I found while searching if there were some lore behind the fangs or not.

    Henche why I added the name of the site I found it on.
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    Last edited by Evergrey; 11-03-2023 at 08:19 AM.

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