Potential Sub Price Decrease

[Midare]

The amount of content devs put for every major patch (~4 months) does not justify sub pricing model at all. You know where all the money go aswell .... to side projects ....

Something a lot of people seems to forget when talking about subs, is that servers are a thing that need to be maintained. I'm talking about the actual, physical servers.

That's what the sub fee goes to. You get access to log in, and in return, the servers are kept in good conditions.

Also, OP, you're ignoring the budget increase it's noticeable. You can see it on more elaborated cutscenes and visuals in general (like the upcoming graphics update). You hear it in the gradual increase in voiced cutscenes from HW to EW.

The budget doesn't go to development alone, it goes to a lot of things.

[NekoMataMata]

That's what the sub fee goes to. You get access to log in, and in return, the servers are kept in good conditions.

All the NA servers were in poor condition a few nights ago actually...


Just a shot from a big thread that was up on the main FFXIV subreddit before anyone decides to call me a liar.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

All the NA servers were in poor condition a few nights ago actually...


Just a shot from a big thread that was up on the main FFXIV subreddit before anyone decides to call me a liar.

That's not the servers though, that's the network outside them lol.


That is XIV up website is also not a great indicator because it just pings the servers from where it's located. If the bad network node is in its path, it's going to show problems. Meanwhile, people who's path doesn't take that node will have zero issues.





We had raid the night those issues were reported, and no one in my group had issues. I have someone in Orlando, 2 in Ohio, 1 near Chicago, one near Detroit, one in Oklahoma, and I'm near Seattle.

[NekoMataMata]

That's not the servers though, that's the network outside them lol.


That is XIV up website is also not a great indicator because it just pings the servers from where it's located. If the bad network node is in its path, it's going to show problems. Meanwhile, people who's path doesn't take that node will have zero issues.





We had raid the night those issues were reported, and no one in my group had issues. I have someone in Orlando, 2 in Ohio, 1 near Chicago, one near Detroit, one in Oklahoma, and I'm near Seattle.

Still an issue isn't it? I'm willing to admit that they don't have control over the nodes, but they do have influence over them that they refuse to exert because they don't care about those of us outside of JP.

Anyways, a lot of people did have issues. There's 89 replies on the thread I snipped. I had issues, as well as most everyone in Eureka with me at the time.

But that's just a whole thread of individuals' words against you and your static. It's kind of silly to reach into individual experiences as a means of disproving/proving something. It's not like we can't tell from your post history that you love SE with all your heart and that you'll defend them regardless of the situation.

[Jonnycbad]

Price has been $13.99 for 10 years. With 32% inflation since then, $13.99 in 2013 is equivalent to $18.50 today. Therefore, inflation has worked in your favor and price has decreased.

[Payadopa]

So, the economic loss of US$30 billion dollars across 3 years in arcade, console and computer video games, coupled with the destruction of the US video console market, coupled with the rise of proprietary game consoles was a great thing?

But you're leaving out the drivel that caused it. And how Nintendo saved the industry. Yes, money was lost, but the games that lead to the decline of customer trust (like E.T.) were a big part. And what do we see today? Overpriced claptraps, filled with Mtx (that can bankrupt you), that barely function even with a day one patch. And while the industry makes billions the actual workers get fired because bottom line. Yes, a crash would be amazing in the long run.

[Payadopa]

Yes, all of what you said has everything to do with square and the fact that XIV is running on an in-house engine, not a licensed 3rd party one.

I was speaking in general terms but you (very conveniently I might add) left out the things that are true for SE and XIV in particular. The absence of physical media being one of them. But it wouldn't be the gaming industry if consumers wouldn't defend multi billion dollar corporations. lol

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I was speaking in general terms but you (very conveniently I might add) left out the things that are true for SE and XIV in particular. The absence of physical media being one of them. But it wouldn't be the gaming industry if consumers wouldn't defend multi billion dollar corporations. lol

Physical media is cheap. It was a fraction of their cost.



I'm not defending corporations, I'm correcting misconceptions.



I'm very aware how little corporations care for their customers. Easy to see with how they treat their employees.

[Thurmnmurmn]

Physical media is cheap. It was a fraction of their cost.



I'm not defending corporations, I'm correcting misconceptions.



I'm very aware how little corporations care for their customers. Easy to see with how they treat their employees.

I was just about to comment this.
The cost of making a game nowadays is massive when compared to before. Physical copies didn't even come close to matching the difference.
Also there's a lot more money that goes into advertising now.

[Stormpeaks]

You don't pay for content you pay to be able to log in on the servers, that's literally it.

So no. Be happy they haven't increased the price due to inflation.