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  1. #11
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleSpriggan View Post
    This makes it incredibly difficult for solo players and newcomers to secure small houses.
    No it doesn't. Spriggan has 1300+ open plots. Your entire premise is wrong and therefore the suggestion is unnecessary.
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  2. #12
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    Khryseis Astra
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    And are those all plots open to private bidders? Or are they mostly FC only? As of this morning my server said it had 279 available, but only about 59 were available to private owners. With the amount of bidders each round, there still is quite the shortage on NA servers.

    Now do I think OP’s idea will fix that? The instanced housing part could. Just removing subs from housing though isn’t going to solve the lack of housing supply though.
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    Ashley Hallowheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    And are those all plots open to private bidders? Or are they mostly FC only? As of this morning my server said it had 279 available, but only about 59 were available to private owners. With the amount of bidders each round, there still is quite the shortage on NA servers.

    Now do I think OP’s idea will fix that? The instanced housing part could. Just removing subs from housing though isn’t going to solve the lack of housing supply though.
    232 of those plots are open to personal housing.

    I am pretty sure that's enough.

    Out of those, about 190 have 0 bids.
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    Last edited by AlexiaD; 11-03-2023 at 10:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    And are those all plots open to private bidders? Or are they mostly FC only?
    Even if they were all fc-only plots (which they aren't), a reduction of submarine fcs wouldn't do anything to add personal plots. It would increase the number of fc plots which there are already too many of.

    But logic has nothing to do with it because the real reason people like OP are mad about submarines is jealousy. Someone else is making Gil and as a result we need to "level the playing field for everyone" despite the fact that it's already possible for anyone to make alts and get their own submarines if they wanted to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Even if they were all fc-only plots (which they aren't), a reduction of submarine fcs wouldn't do anything to add personal plots. It would increase the number of fc plots which there are already too many of.

    But logic has nothing to do with it because the real reason people like OP are mad about submarines is jealousy. Someone else is making Gil and as a result we need to "level the playing field for everyone" despite the fact that it's already possible for anyone to make alts and get their own submarines if they wanted to.
    You tell them

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    Can I beg for some education? What is this rout that makes 500k gil a day?

    If it's purely items that are direct sold, and has nothing to do with the marketboard, it won't hurt to tell me. My FC's pretty quiet, I could test it and see.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    Can I beg for some education? What is this rout that makes 500k gil a day?

    If it's purely items that are direct sold, and has nothing to do with the marketboard, it won't hurt to tell me. My FC's pretty quiet, I could test it and see.
    Basically there are specific builds that you equip your submarines with and then sent them out to specific points and they return items that you can sell to npcs.

    https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/E..._Salvaged_Ring

    With the builds you can basically get SS Efficient drop.

    There are multiple routes and multiple builds that can do it, but they most times start at lvl 85.
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  8. #18
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    Yes! Airships are so undervalued. Being able to use both would be nice

    And Back in the days you were able to have as many houses as you want.
    Until SE changed it.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Even if they were all fc-only plots (which they aren't), a reduction of submarine fcs wouldn't do anything to add personal plots. It would increase the number of fc plots which there are already too many of.

    But logic has nothing to do with it because the real reason people like OP are mad about submarines is jealousy. Someone else is making Gil and as a result we need to "level the playing field for everyone" despite the fact that it's already possible for anyone to make alts and get their own submarines if they wanted to.
    What is wrong with people?
    I am not mad about it and i am not jealous.

    You take it so personal from what i said its incredible.

    I have enough gil and i have had multiple fc's as well.
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  10. #20
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    Ashe Sinclair
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleSpriggan View Post
    What is wrong with people?
    I am not mad about it and i am not jealous.

    You take it so personal from what i said its incredible.

    I have enough gil and i have had multiple fc's as well.
    Don't worry about it, you just kicked the proverbial hornet's nest by suggesting making certain parts of the game more readily available and accessible to all players, which threatens the sense of superiority they get from having access to Special Things only the Super Cool Kids know about. Making it a you problem deflects from the fact that the only thing they care about in this discussion is themselves, lol.

    But I agree, housing is an absolute mess in every respect and it's a shame features like subs and airships are restricted the way they are. Making them a more integral part of housing overall would be a lot more fun and potentially add a new and interesting facet to the system beyond simply decorating that everybody could join in.
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