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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espon View Post
    The netcode is no different than how it's always been. If you understand how to avoid AoEs in combat, you can figure out how to avoid getting hit in the Fall Guys content. It's never the animation you look for, it's the telegraph, and objects here definitely telegraph where they're going to land allowing you to safely move through them.
    Some of the aoes in the collab dont have telegraphs like the moving blobtowers on the crystal carry stage or the exa flares on the final stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espon View Post
    100 wins doesn't seem too bad since the games are pretty quick and not everyone you go up against is a pro. Someone of decent skill will almost always make it to the final round.

    There are definitely far worse achievements.
    See what your wisdom here is missing, is that it is not exclusively what the achievement requires of you, but rather the limited, and the irregular nature of the event. I would argue if you didn't, or don't get the achievement this cycle around, then you'll be waiting potentially a couple years. Maybe a year if lucky. Comparatively these achievements you've elected to list are always available for people to tackle. Not really comparable, to be honest.

    If the event were not a limited-time only then I would wager most people currently taking issue with it would not actually care. They probably wouldn't even care if they upped the ante and asked for 500 wins as opposed to just 100. Again, the issue is around the context of the event being limited. As the time goes by this achievement will be progressively more annoying. Getting it now? Not a problem, that's just approx. 2 wins daily which is enough if you care to bother winning in the first place? Later down the line when other people want to participate?

    Well that's tough luck because they'll probably be waiting a good year or few if the Yo-Kai event is indicative of anything - Which people also took issue with.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 11-02-2023 at 09:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    the exa flares on the final stage.
    the flares do have a telegraph, the blobs dont but they just switch between which ones are going so you can see well before you get to them which ones are next.
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    Telegraphs don't always come in the "marker on the ground before it snapshots" variety.

    For instance, you know a yellow exaflare bomb is going to land in front of you soon (with the snapshot happening likely way sooner than you think) if one just happened in front and to the left of you, because they always cascade from left to right. The previous bomb is your "telegraph" here.
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    Last edited by Fynlar; 11-02-2023 at 09:39 AM.

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    Okay sure I can see your point on the exaflares snapshot being indicated (purely technically speaking) but that doesnt mean it should be defended as such. These snap shots are bad. We can all make fun of them because they are bad. You cant seriously see someone be able to move a full radius out of the aoe in the time between snapshot and impact and think "yup, all is well in beanland". The snapshots in this event are heinously bad even for FF14's low standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    They are brutal (imo they are the worst obstacle to handle across all of the stages); the radius is big enough to the point where you get clipped from behind a lot even when you think you're past it, and the snapshot is unforgiving -- but realistically speaking, it is just Exaflare, which has been a mechanic in the game for years now. If you know how Exaflare works, you should be able to figure out how these work.

    My best piece of advice is to try to stay toward the right side of the stage most of the time (weirdly enough, that's also how you should handle the actual Fall Mountain stage in the actual Fall Guys game, but for different reasons) and keep at least some degree of your attention in front of you toward the left, because that will let you anticipate upcoming bombs in your path -- sometimes, you will want to stop and let a bomb in front of you "pass" instead of just going full tilt forward. I've had a few victories come about solely because I did this whereas my closest rival in the front did not, letting me take the lead.
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    Last edited by Fynlar; 11-02-2023 at 10:08 AM.

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    100 wins seems like a lot, but they need to have a long-term goal so people will keep participating after they have all the item rewards. The event is active for two months, and they've said it will return once in a while. If you don't get 100 this round, you can pick up where you left off next time.

    This also incentivizes people to actually compete and try to win, rather than just constantly enter matches and go AFK while they watch Netflix, just for the 50 points when you lose.
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  8. #28
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    I just got my first win earlier today, out of I don't even know how many games. Yeah, no, even if I was crazy enough to try for the achievement, I am not sure I would be winning at a rate fast enough to get it, unless I was even crazier and spend tons of time in this throwaway mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I just got my first win earlier today, out of I don't even know how many games. Yeah, no, even if I was crazy enough to try for the achievement, I am not sure I would be winning at a rate fast enough to get it, unless I was even crazier and spend tons of time in this throwaway mode.
    The event ends in 60 days so you'd need more than one win per day.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by PortalScience View Post
    There are separate threads about the various other parts of Fall guys, but can we take a moment to just look at the insanity of deciding to put the title on an achievement for 100 wins?

    If the content is expected to be popular, then with 24 people, anyone with average skill should average 1 win in 24 games, meaning the title would require 2400 games.

    Looking at other limited time grinds, even the Garo event, which was extended for years, only required an expected 180 games (60 wins of frontline at a 1 in 3 expected win rate).

    For a fun title, to have it this egregiously grindy makes going into the event unappealing, to the point that it took me a few days to even bother with it.
    While it difficult to get 100 wins, I'm fairly certain the achievement will still be available after, they did say after the event is done, it will run at irregular times in the gold saucer. So i pretty sure during the lulls in-between patches and such. How often that remains a mystery though.
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